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 Post subject: Zenith 103
PostPosted: Oct Fri 13, 2017 2:38 am 
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I need another project like I need another hole in my head, but I think this is a pretty unit that needs some love. From what I have read, it was Zenith's top of the line in '32...I'm curious as to whether I should look into it further & what issues to look for, besides the obvious veneer problem in the pics...


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 Post subject: Re: Zenith 103
PostPosted: Oct Fri 13, 2017 4:59 am 
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This one is rare. People didn't have money to spend on luxuries like high-end radios in '32 so very few of these were sold. Even with the veneer issues on top, it's a heck of a prize. Highly doubtful you'll ever find another.

I hope it's still available and that you're able to get it. Finds like this shouldn't be publicized until they are safe on your property! :shock:

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 Post subject: Re: Zenith 103
PostPosted: Oct Fri 13, 2017 8:57 am 
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Very early and well made Supie by the look of it. Be a nice restoration: almost fancy it :)

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 Post subject: Re: Zenith 103
PostPosted: Oct Fri 13, 2017 10:56 am 
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Very nice find! Hope you got it :D

You can see the restoration of mine here.

http://www.theradiofox.com/zenith/zenith103/index.html

also some here

viewtopic.php?f=1&t=247973&start=20

I am curious of which serial number yours is? There were 3 revisions. The one on my page is the first version, however I have a 3rd version in the queue to restore.

It is funny, I know of more of the 103s in existence than the lower models 92 or 91
Regardless, they are all rare models.

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 Post subject: Re: Zenith 103
PostPosted: Oct Fri 13, 2017 3:14 pm 
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I haven't got it yet... I was looking for more info before taking the plunge. I asked the seller for more pictures, because it's a fair distance away from me.... The funny thing is - he had it for sale about a month ago for $75. I inquired about it then, and was told it was being researched for value, and the ad was taken down - now it pops back up for $150, and it's been up for 2 weeks now. I'm going to offer him the original $75! :wink: Would it be worth taking if he's firm on his new price?
Steve - Yours is the first info I found on it - It made me fall in love with what this one could be! I was wondering why this one says "Super-Hetrodyne" while yours says "Hyper-Hetrodyne" on it's tag....The serial # on this one is #450249.


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 Post subject: Re: Zenith 103
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Very nice restoration and photo sequence of yours Steve.

Enjoyed looking through that, thanks for posting.

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 Post subject: Re: Zenith 103
PostPosted: Oct Fri 13, 2017 4:48 pm 
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I also have one and it is an absolutely fantastic set! You'd love it! $75 would be a steal!
Looks like yours is from version 1 - serial # 450001-450451. They made rolling changes to improve the function of the strength meter and some other aspects of the chassis over time. I think mine is version 2.
Wow - I never noticed that Steve's tag said "Hyper-Heterodyne"! I need to look at mine to see if it is Super or Hyper.
Steve - I think yours (SN 471001) on your site is Version 3. I think 451261 was the cutoff for Version 2 to version 3.
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 Post subject: Re: Zenith 103
PostPosted: Oct Fri 13, 2017 7:11 pm 
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That is odd, Let us know what yours says Joe.

It is definitely the first run.

Mine is an anomaly as it is a 25 Cycle model. It turns out mine is a first run as well, with the volume control in the AVC circuit.
I see why they made the changes as it doesn't work as well as it could. Then again, the volume control in mine is not original, so it may have the wrong taper.

$150 is still a great deal.

-Steve

EDIT: here are scans of the two 103 ultra tags I have.

They are certainly different in aged color. But otherwise similar
one difference than the one andyjon100 found is the into is stamped like the serial numbers. Mine are printed.

I'm not sure why this difference, but I've seen it in other Zeniths of the time.
The tag may have been a generic one not originally intended to be on a 103.

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 Post subject: Re: Zenith 103
PostPosted: Oct Sat 14, 2017 10:06 pm 
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Even at $150, it will still be a good deal. $75 will be even better though!

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 Post subject: Re: Zenith 103
PostPosted: Oct Mon 16, 2017 1:27 am 
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Is 25 cycle electricity for Foreign countries?? Never seen that before (but then, I am NOT an electronics afficianado!!).


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 Post subject: Re: Zenith 103
PostPosted: Oct Mon 16, 2017 11:12 am 
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A few places in the US had 25 cycle power such as in the Niagara Falls area and certain parts of Indiana. I Believe Canada had some parts of 25 cycle power too.

It wasn't common, but enough to warrant manufacturing radios with large enough power transformers to handle it.
Just as there were enough DC power in large metropolitan areas such as NYC to warrant manufacture of 110VDC powered sets.

You can usually spot the 25 cycle models by noting the size of the power transformer. if it looks unusually HUGE, it probably is a 25 cycle model.
They work just as well at 60 cycles.

However, don't use a 60 cycle power transformer on 25 (if you could ever find a source).
It will certainly overheat and burn up.

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 Post subject: Re: Zenith 103
PostPosted: Oct Mon 16, 2017 10:19 pm 
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That's right - sorry Steve!! I forgot that you had that 25 cycle with the seemingly out of order s/n. Still need to look at my plate. Hopefully tonight.
Yes - $150 would be a good deal as well.
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 Post subject: Re: Zenith 103
PostPosted: Oct Tue 17, 2017 3:02 am 
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The seller FINALLY got back to me... I'm going out to pick her up this weekend! She's about an hour away.


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 Post subject: Re: Zenith 103
PostPosted: Oct Tue 17, 2017 3:50 am 
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That is great!! Congratulations!!
My plate looks just like yours - Super-Heterodyne. S/n 450509 (variety 2). They must have changed the plates later in the run.
Cheers!!
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 Post subject: Re: Zenith 103
PostPosted: Oct Tue 17, 2017 4:02 am 
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I'm hoping this guy's "very nice condition" is the same as MY "very nice condition"! He claims that the top veneer issue is the only problem with it....


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