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 Post subject: Re: Rare 1920's Battery Sets
PostPosted: Oct Mon 30, 2017 1:12 am 
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 Post subject: Re: Rare 1920's Battery Sets
PostPosted: Oct Tue 31, 2017 12:41 am 
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Here are a couple of shots of my Ware 'Music Master" This is the only radio in my fleet that uses UV-199 tubes, with the exception of my Radiola III and IIIA, everything else uses 01A's.

Currently un-restored, all the wire have cracked insulation, and both transformers are open. No plans to restore at the moment.

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 Post subject: Re: Rare 1920's Battery Sets
PostPosted: Oct Tue 31, 2017 12:57 am 
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The Radiola III and IIIA didn't use 199s, they used WD11s.

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 Post subject: Re: Rare 1920's Battery Sets
PostPosted: Oct Tue 31, 2017 2:13 am 
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Radiola III, IIIA, III amp can and did use ux-99's with RCA "blessing".

RCA Service notes for 1923-1928.

http://www.americanradiohistory.com/Arc ... 3-1928.pdf

This is the "other" "Redbook" series, the most commonly referenced is the Service Letters. The Service Notes are actual copies of the instructions provided with the set and to dealers files. It is the most comprehensive information for all RCA.

It is a huge download of 653 pages as indicated on most pdf browsers.

On page 48 (pdf) begins the complete information on the Radiola III, IIIA, III amp as well as complete instructions how to convert to ux-99's by two methods.


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 Post subject: Re: Rare 1920's Battery Sets
PostPosted: Oct Tue 31, 2017 2:31 am 
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Well I guess you can convert or modify anything,
BUT they were made to use WD-11s.

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 Post subject: Re: Rare 1920's Battery Sets
PostPosted: Oct Tue 31, 2017 2:43 am 
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Ron, that was poor wording on my part, did not mean to imply that the Radiola’s used them.
Chas, as it turns out my IIIA has adapters with UX 199’s in it.

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 Post subject: Re: Rare 1920's Battery Sets
PostPosted: Oct Tue 31, 2017 4:01 am 
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Here is a seldom seen 1922 1-tube set by Victor Radio Corp.
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 Post subject: Re: Rare 1920's Battery Sets
PostPosted: Oct Tue 31, 2017 5:42 am 
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Here is another interesting set from an obscure manufacturer. A Crouch, Wilson & Company Clar-A-Dyne receiver.
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 Post subject: Re: Rare 1920's Battery Sets
PostPosted: Oct Tue 31, 2017 10:10 pm 
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I have seen ads for the Victor, Alan - Probably in "The Radio Dealer".
This is a somewhat obscure Neon Simplex one tube receiver from 1923. The Neon Lamp Works of New York City made a brief foray in to manufacturing radios beginning in August 1923 as advertised in "The Radio Dealer" Neon Lamp Works exhibited at the Second Radio Exhibition at the Grand Central Palace for a week beginning in October 1923. Later ads in "The Wireless Age" and "Radio News" showed a matching amplifier and accessories. Toward the end of 1923 they became or sold out to Royal Manufacturing Co. also in NY. They continued the Simplex line which soon became the "Royal" line.
I would be happy to take the Amplifier off someone's hands as a gift!


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 Post subject: Re: Rare 1920's Battery Sets
PostPosted: Nov Wed 01, 2017 6:54 am 
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Here's a some of mine, first is a slightly seldom seen
Cutting & Washington 15, it uses a single 199 which
makes not all that early since 199s came out in '25.

The second set I bought from and old guy that came up
to me at one of the last Charlotte meets before we moved
to the Sheraton in '94. He had to be nearly 90 years old,
he had it wrapped in a blanket in the trunk of his car,
he told me he built it as a class project at MIT in 1922.
I wish I could go back and invite him inside to sit down
and talk... I'd really like to know his name.
It uses 2 clear glass 01As that he said were the original
tubes he bought when he built the set.

The third one is a neat breadboard style homebrew I bought
in the auction at last March's Charlotte meet.
It uses both a cats whisker crystal detector and a single
01 also used as a detector, there's a 2 position switch that
allows the user to select either crystal or tube detector.


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 Post subject: Re: Rare 1920's Battery Sets
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My Giblin Model RL and associated accessories and memorabilia.


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 Post subject: Re: Rare 1920's Battery Sets
PostPosted: Dec Sun 03, 2017 1:36 am 
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This is one of my recent acquisitions. This is a one tube set with a two tube amp made or marketed by The American Radio Sales and Service Company of Mansfield, Ohio from around 1922 or 3. I have seen ads of this company but no mention of this radio or the amp. It looks to be in the original state. Anyone have any information on this company?


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 Post subject: Re: Rare 1920's Battery Sets
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1922 Liotard

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 Post subject: Re: Rare 1920's Battery Sets
PostPosted: Dec Sun 03, 2017 9:28 pm 
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Very nice radio. Probably the only one in the US.


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 Post subject: Re: Rare 1920's Battery Sets
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The French collectors I spoke with said that there was another one in France.

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 Post subject: Re: Rare 1920's Battery Sets
PostPosted: Dec Mon 04, 2017 12:07 am 
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The Halowat of mine is the only one I have seen in person so I guess having been made here in Portland that makes it somewhat rare.


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 Post subject: Re: Rare 1920's Battery Sets
PostPosted: Dec Mon 04, 2017 1:14 am 
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Ed Jacobs wrote:
The Halowat of mine is the only one I have seen in person so I guess having been made here in Portland that makes it somewhat rare.


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 Post subject: Re: Rare 1920's Battery Sets
PostPosted: Dec Mon 04, 2017 1:29 am 
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Sweet radio Ed, Hedgehog transformers :)


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 Post subject: Re: Rare 1920's Battery Sets
PostPosted: Dec Mon 04, 2017 6:59 am 
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And as usual the Hedgehog transformers are open in all four quarters.

I need one of those Russ, even if I have to make it myself!!
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 Post subject: Re: Rare 1920's Battery Sets
PostPosted: Dec Tue 05, 2017 11:42 pm 
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The AK 50 has several layers of metal covers mainly for extreme shielding. Any missing cover will make the 50 a lousy radio with heterodyning against powerful stations. The circuit is a non-amplified high Q tuned filter on the input. It had a group of transformers and amplifiers that failed frequently.

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