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 Post subject: Document -Bill of Sale for Tube found inside radio from 1959
PostPosted: Dec Mon 04, 2017 9:58 pm 
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I was preparing a radio to work on tomorrow. Removing the chassis from the radio I found this Bill of Sale for a single tube.
I thought I would share the document to see if any ARF member(s) may have known the electronics company that sold the tube.


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 Post subject: Re: Document -Bill of Sale for Tube found inside radio from
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I can't make out the second line with the dollar charge. Labor? If so, was it a repair facility? I have found a couple of these and always get a kick out of them.

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 Post subject: Re: Document -Bill of Sale for Tube found inside radio from
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Wow. Tubes were expensive back in 1959! What would $3.25 be in today's currency, I wonder. Must be well over $10, or maybe more like $20.

I love finding those sorts of little historical breadcrumbs in old equipment. My wife bought me a beat up old turn-of-the-century upright piano 20 or so years ago, and when I opened it up to do some crude, badly needed tuning found a receipt from a "service and tuning" that'd been done in 1935. It remains exactly where I found it.

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 Post subject: Re: Document -Bill of Sale for Tube found inside radio from
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What would $3.25 be in today's currency

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$ 3.25 in 1959 has the same buying power as $27.64 in Oct 2017.

For the Labor - $1.00
CPI Inflation Calculator $1.00 in 1959 has the same buying power as $8.51 in Oct 2017.

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I live in Macedon NY and have never heard of Richmond Electronics. But I was 9 at the time...


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I once found a # 75 tube with a sticker stating “ R T Grim Camp Hill Pa , Nov 13, 1937 “
So they are still in business. I called and asked if they would be interested in having it to display. I would like $8 for it, it test good & that would cover shipping. “ oh no we won’t pay you but you can give it to us “. We’ll kiss my Irish butt, it’s 50 mile round trip or $3.50 to mail it. I have it displayed in my shack .

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 Post subject: Re: Document -Bill of Sale for Tube found inside radio from
PostPosted: Dec Tue 05, 2017 12:53 am 
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In 1959 the do-it-yourselfer could have bought a 12SA7 at Sears for $2.20...

Wholesale price at the electronics supply would have been 50 to 60% off the retail price...

mcars wrote:
I once found a # 75 tube with a sticker stating “ R T Grim Camp Hill Pa , Nov 13, 1937 “
June 1 1937 N-U price list has 75 for $1.20... No idea what jobber discount was in that era...


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 Post subject: Re: Document -Bill of Sale for Tube found inside radio from
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WOW that was an expensive tube.


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 Post subject: Re: Document -Bill of Sale for Tube found inside radio from
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WOW that was an expensive tube.

You bet. Coulda almost bought three CK722 Transistors for that kinda coin back then.

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I have a book I log all the tube sales stickers into. Being here in the Detroit area where there were over 60 TV/radio repair shops at one time, its quite a list. I use Google Maps to look them up and see if there are still buildings there. If so, I send a note asking the current occupant if there might be any boxes of stuff in the attic or basement.

I only hit once, it was not a huge haul but was worth the trip. Doing follow up like that can produce results.
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 Post subject: Re: Document -Bill of Sale for Tube found inside radio from
PostPosted: Dec Tue 05, 2017 3:10 pm 
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That was the list price which repair places often charged. The 1960 Lafayette cat shows them for $1.96.


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 Post subject: Re: Document -Bill of Sale for Tube found inside radio from
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xwarp wrote:
WOW that was an expensive tube.

That was retail price the shops were charging, his price would have been approx half at supply house... Or $2.20 at Sears or $1.96 at Lafayette, all depended on where and circumstance of purchase... In that era there were 39 cent tubes advertised in many of the electronic rags...

The bill doesn't state whether tube was metal or glass but the retail price for metal 12SA7 was $3.70 with the GT at $3.25... Likely was the GT...

Retail for a 47 was $8.70 while a 50 was only 5.70... A 70L7 or 117L7/M7 was $10.15... :shock:

On the good side retail for 6U5 was $3.15 or $2.25 at Sears...

In 1966 Spring/Summer, Sears was still charging $2.20 for 12SA7GT... But other than 50C5 at 1.04, all miniature AA5 tubes were less than a buck... 35W4 only $.57... Older tubes no longer listed...


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 Post subject: Re: Document -Bill of Sale for Tube found inside radio from
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1963 Allied has it in GT for $2.15 ($4.30 retail) with ~50-60c postage. So Brice paid about the going retail rate. But that dollar labor? Too Much!! Richmond already made a buck on the tube markup! I wouldn't go back there if I were you. :lol:

Some 10 or more years ago I tested all my stashed tubes and made a spreadsheet with current "generic" street price at that time and any other pertinent info, like if it fit any of my own radios. I have a few 12SA7 and I show a used/tested value of $4 each. I have no "new" tubes so didn't chart that. What're they going for these days used/NOS?

I wonder if that was the last time that radio was in a shop? Maybe ol' Brice never went back there again himself!
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Even 50 years later, they're griping about the nickels and dimes. :lol:

$1 may have seemed a bit high for a service charge, but it has to cover rent, shop supplies, tool replacement, storage, insurance if he had any, advertising, business license, book keeping, and the rest. His take home for that job was a few pennies.
The markup on tubes helped a bit, and small businesses today rely on that same strategy.

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 Post subject: Re: Document -Bill of Sale for Tube found inside radio from
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decoflair wrote:
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What would $3.25 be in today's currency

CPI Inflation Calculator
$ 3.25 in 1959 has the same buying power as $27.64 in Oct 2017.

For the Labor - $1.00
CPI Inflation Calculator $1.00 in 1959 has the same buying power as $8.51 in Oct 2017.



Ha! $27 for the tube and $8.50 for the labor. Today that ratio would at least be reversed.

likely $10 for the tube and $75 "minimum bench charge."


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 Post subject: Re: Document -Bill of Sale for Tube found inside radio from
PostPosted: Dec Sat 09, 2017 6:00 pm 
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Gripe, gripe, gripe...

This was published in early/mid '60s by Tung-Sol

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The guy had to spend some time finding which tube was open, then test the radio briefly to make sure all was well. How can anyone think that $1 is too much?


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