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 Post subject: Philco 40-130 Performance
PostPosted: Dec Fri 08, 2017 4:42 pm 
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I just finished up the electrical on a Philco 40-130 Tabletop, (bought from another ARF member).. Even though I have yet to do a proper alignment, this is one hot little radio.. The dial is full of stations.. I have a Philco 40-160 console that is the same way.. The circuits are close if not the same and they both sport their original loop antennas.. Even in my metal building, the console is a boom box.. I'm now wondering what this 40-130 would do with a long wire.. Has anyone played around with these radios??


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 Post subject: Re: Philco 40-130 Performance
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I have a 40-180 console, possibly the best performing tube radio I own (and I got a bunch of 'em!). I think the drum antenna has a good deal to do with it, although when I was restoring it, it could pick up stations even with nothing connected to the antenna terminals.

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 Post subject: Re: Philco 40-130 Performance
PostPosted: Dec Sat 09, 2017 12:12 pm 
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Exactly.. After I finished the console(40-160), I was very pleased with how it performed.. It out did everything else on the shelf.. I thought maybe I was going to have to revisit some of the others.. I know they were not high end radios, but they receive very well with their own antenna.. Old school plug and play.. I'm tickled with both of them.. Heck, this is the only one my wife hasn't banished to the shack.. :shock:
I may see about putting a long wire up, but I don't expect I'll do much better..

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 Post subject: Re: Philco 40-130 Performance
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I tried my random length (now I can't remember, but over 100 feet on my back acre) long wire with mine, and there really wasn't any or much difference between it and the drum.

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 Post subject: Re: Philco 40-130 Performance
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There's a reason Philco sold so many sets in the years just before WWII. I have to say I've been impressed with most of the ones I've restored. They gave the customer a lot of bang for their buck.

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 Post subject: Re: Philco 40-130 Performance
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philco really did offer the best VALUE at any price range. And, like Ford, Honda and such, offered a WIDE range of sets. Most collectors have not seen all the "upper line" stuff Philco made... its really great stuff. But their cheaper stuff outshines most other brands too.
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 Post subject: Re: Philco 40-130 Performance
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The Philco xx-180/280/380 consoles are fantastic performers with a great sound. Very attractive cabinets. I think the 40-180 has the best cabinet and a metal escutcheon.

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 Post subject: Re: Philco 40-130 Performance
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Here's two scans of my 40-180. KCBS/740Kc/San Francisco and KOMO/1000Kc/Seattle come in like locals at night, consistently, just using the built in drum antenna.


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 Post subject: Re: Philco 40-130 Performance
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i LOVE the 1940 Philco consoles with the "jukebox" cabinets. No grille cloth to mess with (its hidden behind the ample bars!) and, the bezel is metal not plastic. And, the pushbuttons actually WORK if you clean the contacts. Just have to get the repro buttons as the originals all decay. One thing, the bezel should be a light gold color, not polished to silver. It was a tin part, not brass.
The 1939 models used longer buttons, originally with brass clips to hold them in the bezel and its not as good as the 1940 models. Ed at www.renovatedradios.com has some nicely re-engineered long buttons that fit onto the blade shafts, so its and upgrade that works better than the old ones did.
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 Post subject: Re: Philco 40-130 Performance
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Always thought Philco was the Ford of the radio world,.. :D

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 Post subject: Re: Philco 40-130 Performance
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Stan the Man wrote:
Always thought Philco was the Ford of the radio world,.. :D



TRUE in more ways than one ! But, many folks here would not "Get" that. So lets explain...
Philco had a rough decade in the 50's. They apparently lost a lot of $$$ in TV sales (I think many makers did) but the recession of 1958 and the intro of the famous Philco Predicta TV (Philco's EDSEL, as it was made '58-'60 just like the Edsel and had the same results overall) By 1960 Philco was nearly bankrupt from what I hear.
BUT, they were the main supplier to Ford for their auto radios. So, rather than let Philco die, they bought them in 1961 and kept them alive until 1974 when they parted the company out. So the end of the great brand that was born in 1906 and captured the top of the radio market in ONE YEAR (1929 first Philco, 1930-1950 or so, the top selling brand !).
An amazing story, seldom told. Not like "Commander" McDonald and his Zenith story.

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 Post subject: Re: Philco 40-130 Performance
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Hello everyone,

I picked up a 40-145 Tabletop at fall Kutztown. This appears to be a very similar radio, a change here and there with a couple different tubes. I expect to get to this radio in the not too distant future. Any comments about this radio would be welcome to a novice such as myself. Can I expect the same performance as you have seen from your 40-130s?

Many thanks to all for the help I have received from this forum.

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 Post subject: Re: Philco 40-130 Performance
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Just dug out a 40-150 similar to the '145 but different style cabinet and p/p 41's. Has been serviced before but has some issues to sort. Mostly workmanship. A lot of the Philcos I have are either bigger or old than this little guy.

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 Post subject: Re: Philco 40-130 Performance
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Can I expect the same performance as you have seen from your 40-130s?


I only have experience with the 40-130 and 40-160 so far,.. I did learn real quick that the loop antenna is part of the circuit.. My 40-160 wouldn't work without its antenna hooked up.. When I finished with the 40-130, I didn't turn it on without the antenna hooked up.. I warmed it up yesterday and found a station that plays a good 70s-80s rock mix.. Every few songs they would play an Elvis Christmas tune.. It played for about four hours with no noticeable signs of drift.. My wife wants to keep it in the house :shock: .. I think I've found a daily driver..

BTW, On the 40-160 the buttons are individual tuning slugs,.. the far right button(I think) disables the manual tuning cap and allows the other buttons to work.. Thought it was worth noting..
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 Post subject: Re: Philco 40-130 Performance
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Stan the Man wrote:

BTW, On the 40-160 the buttons are individual tuning slugs,.. the far right button(I think) disables the manual tuning cap and allows the other buttons to work.. Thought it was worth noting..
Stan

On my 40-180 console, the far right button is the manual button, labeled "BDCST". The rest are for presets.

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Stan the Man wrote:

BTW, On the 40-160 the buttons are individual tuning slugs,.. the far right button(I think) disables the manual tuning cap and allows the other buttons to work.. Thought it was worth noting..
Stan

On my 40-180 console, the far right button is the manual button, labeled "BDCST". The rest are for presets.


Oops,.. In out, I can't remember.. Most people that I show it to expect to see the pointer jump over when I push a button.. :o

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I can't remember..

You too, eh? I can't remember what I had for breakfast two days ago...:wink:

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 Post subject: Re: Philco 40-130 Performance
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Stan the Man wrote:
I can't remember..

You too, eh? I can't remember what I had for breakfast two days ago...:wink:


I can!! I have the same thing most every morning.. So I have a 50/50 shot.. Lately,.. I think :)

The station I've been listening to (AM 830kHz) signs off early in the afternoon.. Yesterday, just after they signed off, I rolled the dial back and forth and picked up a weaker station at 840 kHz.. I listened long enough to hear the station ID.. Shortly after that it faded away.. A Minnesota station,.. I'm in north Mississippi!! How cool,.. DXing with my old Philco.. :D

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 Post subject: Re: Philco 40-130 Performance
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I have a fondness for Philco radios. I have several, and they are very good performers.

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 Post subject: Re: Philco 40-130 Performance
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I had both a 40-180 and a 40-150 which I've sold. They were great performers. But if you didn't know to have the right button pushed in to use the dial to tune, it can be a real head scratcher to figure out what's wrong! I had someone with a 40-190 I originally restored bring it to me because they said it stopped working and would I look at it. As soon as they unloaded it, I pushed in the button, turned it on and it fired right up. And their jaw dropped :lol: Of course originally, the far left pushbutton was labeled "tele-vision", for television sound.

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