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 Post subject: does anyone have a clue?
PostPosted: Feb Fri 02, 2018 9:27 pm 
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Hello,
I found this Soviet radio in the Eastern Poland - 6N-1. It had to be bought between 1939 and 1941 and produced between 1938 and 1941... That would not be unusual, but
(1) that time using radios in Poland was illegal as per German law
(2) However, on the radio inside I found this sticker, in German (please see the picture).

I wonder what it means. Has anyone seen a sticker like that on any (other) radio?
Would be grateful for any hints.


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 Post subject: Re: does anyone have a clue?
PostPosted: Feb Sat 03, 2018 1:41 am 
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Well just doing a google search yields Bialystok is a city in poland. Fernruf means telephone. Electron is probly the name of the business it was either sold at or serviced. You will find similar stickers inside old american radios.


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PostPosted: Feb Sat 03, 2018 1:43 am 
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Love yer name. :)

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 Post subject: Re: does anyone have a clue?
PostPosted: Feb Sat 03, 2018 2:03 am 
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Since it has the city name, it was not brought in from Russia secretly.
Since the address is given in German, it may have been supplied to German Army personnel.
It may be that the dates you were given are not accurate.

Can you post a pic of the radio front? Resize your pic to 800 pixels or less per side before attaching. Cheers.

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 Post subject: Re: does anyone have a clue?
PostPosted: Feb Sat 03, 2018 5:26 pm 
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"Electron-Byalistok" is the name of either the plant where the unit was manufactured or the name of the outfit which imported it into Poland. (Byalystok is the name of a town in Poland).

"Fernruf 77" is their long distance phone number.

"Schloss Str. 16 is their street address.

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 Post subject: Re: does anyone have a clue?
PostPosted: Feb Sat 03, 2018 7:28 pm 
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Thanks everyone. I am sure that the dates are accurate. When the radio was bought (before 1941) Bialystok was occupied by the Soviets, and not Germans. The Germans came to Bialystok in June 1941. So if this is a repair shop's sticker, it was put there after '41, and it means that the radio was owned by a so-called Volksdeutsche (as I said, others were not allowed to posses and use radios), very interesting considering the history of Eastern Poland (they are considered to often be collaborating with the occupants).


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 Post subject: Re: does anyone have a clue?
PostPosted: Feb Sun 04, 2018 2:30 am 
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That is an Elektrit logo.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elektrit

Post a photo of the set....

I have a Polish book on Elektrit.... With a photo I can probably point you to good info.

Robert


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 Post subject: Re: does anyone have a clue?
PostPosted: Feb Sun 04, 2018 5:21 am 
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Is it this radio?
https://www.radiomuseum.org/r/voronezh_e_6n1.html

An insight into the history of this radio in occupied Poland could perhaps be obtained by inspecting its coils as to whether the short waves (SW) are disconnected or not. Removing SW coils was mandatory after German defeat at Stalingrad, if not earlier, for all radios owned by non-Germans in occupied countries. Radios owned by Germans were not in most cases subjected to SW coils removal. In any case, listening to enemy broadcast was outlawed in September 1939 for both Germans and non-Germans.

Also, during occupation, many radios were confiscated and distributed to various military / government / etc. users as needed.


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 Post subject: Re: does anyone have a clue?
PostPosted: Feb Sun 04, 2018 11:41 am 
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Thanks so much, it is a very interesting lead! I will check SW coils and let you know.


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 Post subject: Re: does anyone have a clue?
PostPosted: Feb Sun 04, 2018 11:42 am 
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And yes, this is the radio I was talking about :)


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That is cool!
It is an RCA clone! :D

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 Post subject: Re: does anyone have a clue?
PostPosted: Feb Mon 05, 2018 6:40 pm 
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The USSR made specific radios for export. I am just mentioning this as a point of interest. For example, the VEF 12 (which came after the Spidola) was produced under another name of the Astrad Auriga. This Astrad Auriga was illegal to be used in the USSR and only shipped for export. It has a 13 meters range which is maybe why it wasn't legal in the USSR itself. By chance I happen to have an Astrad Auriga although its not yet getting stations.
I found out the USSR produced a lot of really superb radios. Some of the tube sets seemed to have a really classy wooden veneer design.
There are no end of interesting Soviet radios to collect and they seemed to reflect an interest in science and technology during the 1960's.


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 Post subject: Re: does anyone have a clue?
PostPosted: Feb Wed 07, 2018 12:42 am 
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Robert Lozier wrote:
That is an Elektrit logo.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elektrit

Post a photo of the set....

I have a Polish book on Elektrit.... With a photo I can probably point you to good info.

Robert


Robert, can you provide the reference to the book? It sounds really interesting.

I will post more pictures soon.


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 Post subject: Re: does anyone have a clue?
PostPosted: Feb Wed 07, 2018 3:35 am 
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The gorgeous picture book on Elektrit can be viewed in Google Books
if you search on its ISBN # isbn 978-83-932136-0-3
Towarzystwo Radiotechniczne ELEKTRIT. Wilno 1925-1939
Henryk Berezowski

There is no picture reference to the radios made under RCA license. I had the author send me the Polish text file so that I could translate with Google. I did agree that I would not distribute the file.

He has an appendix that talks about the seizure of Elektrit assets by the Germans and the eventual carting off to Minsk of tooling along with the forced removal of skilled workers to build radios for the USSR.

If you have any interest in east European radio manufacture, you will want to own a copy.

Robert


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 Post subject: Re: does anyone have a clue?
PostPosted: Feb Thu 08, 2018 8:37 pm 
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Here is the picture of the front.


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Wow. It looks like they more or less copied an RCA 7X
https://www.etsy.com/listing/568549347/ ... ne-antique


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PostPosted: Feb Fri 09, 2018 4:23 am 
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bobwilson1977 wrote:
Wow. It looks like they more or less copied an RCA 7X
The history of that radio is described in the Radio Museum link. They copied the RCA 6T2, in fact, started out just assembling radios from US parts.

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