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 Post subject: Worst railroad tracks ever
PostPosted: Feb Sun 04, 2018 8:54 pm 
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My railroading friend
sent me this video. It's hard to believe:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9X2A2f6E5DI


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 Post subject: Re: Worst railroad tracks ever
PostPosted: Feb Sun 04, 2018 9:18 pm 
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If the second unit didn't say, "Pioneer Lines" I would have guessed the Twin Cities and Western. Even the colors of the units appear similar. I've been over most of their track and it ain't pretty. To their credit, they've been working to improve it. But it's still maybe Class 2.

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 Post subject: Re: Worst railroad tracks ever
PostPosted: Feb Sun 04, 2018 10:45 pm 
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And eight months later, a derailment.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Ao-24274Jw


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 Post subject: Re: Worst railroad tracks ever
PostPosted: Feb Sun 04, 2018 11:41 pm 
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One should have some sympathy for the railroad itself. It is obviously a struggling little shortline that has few customers who can bargain their rates way low under threat of using trucks instead. Most likely the outfit will eventually surrender to the whims of finance. Dreams die hard and we watch them erode away.

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 Post subject: Re: Worst railroad tracks ever
PostPosted: Feb Mon 05, 2018 3:41 am 
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Although the telephoto effect obviously exaggerates the conditions of the tracks somewhat, the sight of the locomotives bobbing back and forth from side to side is quite telling.

During the last years of the Milwaukee Road's Pacific Extension, there were sections of tracks with slow orders, and the engineers knew probably every inch of the track, knowing exactly when to slow to a crawl.

I don't think the track was as bad as the track in the video, but it was definitely not transcontinental main line class...

It's not easy for small railroads to make money, considering the outlay for infrastructure they have to deal with.


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 Post subject: Re: Worst railroad tracks ever
PostPosted: Feb Tue 06, 2018 12:56 am 
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Also think of the property taxes they pay on the ROW. Yes, they do pay property taxes to the state their property is in. Railroads that have holdings in more than one state pay in every state they have property in.
Let's say this small outfit is only in one state and being a short line only in one county. They still probably have thousands of acres all put together, and the buildings for offices and shops and warehouses all pay property taxes, just like any business. The difference from most other businesses is the amount of land they hold. $$$$$$$!

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Looked to the right and Up Next: Train derailment on the ND&W Railroad :lol:

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the beginning 52 seconds of that video is sped up.

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 Post subject: Re: Worst railroad tracks ever
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Those tracks and pulling a tanker car?Environmental disaster is gonna happen.
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 Post subject: Re: Worst railroad tracks ever
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Philco Fan wrote:
Those tracks and pulling a tanker car?Environmental disaster is gonna happen.
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Maybe it is milk in the tanker :lol:

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 Post subject: Re: Worst railroad tracks ever
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Philco Fan wrote:
Those tracks and pulling a tanker car?Environmental disaster is gonna happen.
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No hazardous material in that tanker

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 Post subject: Re: Worst railroad tracks ever
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Why would you even risk using tracks in that bad of condition? The biggest surprise is that the FRA is even allowing them to operate in such unsafe track conditions.

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 Post subject: Re: Worst railroad tracks ever
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Jeremy S wrote:
Why would you even risk using tracks in that bad of condition? The biggest surprise is that the FRA is even allowing them to operate in such unsafe track conditions.



It's because the company doesn't have the resources to make it any better. It would cost in the millions of dollars to improve it to a decent standard.
The FRA doesn't do anything because the railroad in this condition is prohibited from hauling anything that is hazardous in any way. If they roll some cars over and clean up the mess themselves, and nobody is injured, FRA isn't inclined to go after them. They ARE providing a local service that would be gone if the FRA told them they have to make their grade and rail perfect before they can operate.

There are railroads all over the country that operate like this. They generally have less than five customers, sometimes only one. You don't get rich doing this, but if you hoard the pennies you can make a meager living operating it and provide a service at the same time.

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 Post subject: Re: Worst railroad tracks ever
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Don Cavey wrote:
Philco Fan wrote:
Those tracks and pulling a tanker car?Environmental disaster is gonna happen.
Phil

Maybe it is milk in the tanker :lol:


We had a tanker truck overturn on the I5 freeway in Burbank. Big mess and they had the HASMAT guys out there immediately. The tanker spilled milk.


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 Post subject: Re: Worst railroad tracks ever
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Philco Fan wrote:
Those tracks and pulling a tanker car?Environmental disaster is gonna happen.
Phil



I hear Amtrak is going to start a new high speed route on that line.


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