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 Post subject: Tire rim unbending
PostPosted: Mar Wed 07, 2018 3:45 am 
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My wife recently bent two tire rims (sigh). Aluminum alloy, I don't know the specs. However, in general, how do I find a competent rim de-bender who will charge a reasonable fee? Fortunately no cracks, only curb and pothole dings. Thanks for any thoughts.

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 Post subject: Re: Tire rim unbending
PostPosted: Mar Wed 07, 2018 4:11 am 
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Hello TDane, I would have to say if these are manufactures rims it might pay you to just see if
you and find a used pair at an auto salvage yard or CL or even Ebay, To try to straighten them
is costly, and probably would cost more than a used pair. The only reason I would try to fix is if they were expensive rims like Boyd Coddingtons or Chip Foose rims or some classic rims. Plus if they are straightened could cause alignment problems or high speed wobble if not true.

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 Post subject: Re: Tire rim unbending
PostPosted: Mar Wed 07, 2018 4:18 am 
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Find some used rims at a scrap yard.

Bent rims are damaged. Aluminum wil work harden and get brittle. After bending back they need to be heat treated back to original specs. That is expensive.

If it is just a slight bend at the lip and holds air, I'd just live with it until you get a deal on some replacements.

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 Post subject: Re: Tire rim unbending
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 Post subject: Re: Tire rim unbending
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 Post subject: Re: Tire rim unbending
PostPosted: Mar Wed 07, 2018 5:33 am 
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Had some factory (steel) rims straightened several years ago. With just a few months on them, they were messed up again. Dealer said they were weakened by the initial damage, and would never hold true shape again. Lesson learned.

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 Post subject: Re: Tire rim unbending
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Yeah, if only the car makers would go back to steel wheels. They seldom bent and they didn't leak air as so many of the alloy wheels are prone to.
Unfortunately, that's never going to happen.
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 Post subject: Re: Tire rim unbending
PostPosted: Mar Wed 07, 2018 4:45 pm 
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Mark D wrote:
Yeah, if only the car makers would go back to steel wheels. They seldom bent and they didn't leak air as so many of the alloy wheels are prone to.
Unfortunately, that's never going to happen.
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Agree with steel being preferrable.

Are the car makers using aluminum simply to cut back on weight or appearance? Seems like some base models are still available with steel rims.

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 Post subject: Re: Tire rim unbending
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processhead wrote:
Mark D wrote:
Yeah, if only the car makers would go back to steel wheels. They seldom bent and they didn't leak air as so many of the alloy wheels are prone to.
Unfortunately, that's never going to happen.
Mark D.


Agree with steel being preferrable.

Are the car makers using aluminum simply to cut back on weight or appearance? Seems like some base models are still available with steel rims.


Steel wheels typically come with wheel covers, or as they used to be called hubcaps. I kinda prefer aluminum if I dont need to fool with wheel covers.

Once my wife and I were on a trip with my parents following behind us and we hit the mother of all bumps and not only did we dent all four steel wheels but all four wheel covers departed the car at once.

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 Post subject: Re: Tire rim unbending
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Yeah, but you apparently haven't seen what road salt does to alloy wheels. Appearance goes down the drain after about three winters. I see nothing wrong with steel wheels and wheel covers or hub caps - two different things. At least the steel wheels seldom had rim leaks, whereas the alloy wheels not only can be porous in any place on the wheel, but they leak around the bead even more. Steel wheels seldom had 'rim' leaks, and when they did a air tool and wire rotary brush will clean it up in seconds. On a alloy wheel it is usually fruitless to get it to stop leaking.
But they look pretty. Oh, and in most cases are a little bit lighter than a steel wheel.

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 Post subject: Re: Tire rim unbending
PostPosted: Mar Thu 08, 2018 7:04 am 
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If you don't like aluminum wheels then you'd probably not like the idea the car companies were working on some years back. It was a weight-saving idea. Plastic rims. Not plastic wheel covers but plastic rims. I only read about this once or twice and then it just disappeared.

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 Post subject: Re: Tire rim unbending
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I'm aware of that. Don't like it much at first blush, but if they actually come out on the market some day I'll give them a chance and see how well they hold up.
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 Post subject: Re: Tire rim unbending
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Unfortunately, vehicles today use low profile tires and as a result, when you hit a pothole, there isn't much of a sidewall to protect the rim. There are firms that will repair an alloy rim and the cost I've seen quoted is about $139.


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 Post subject: Re: Tire rim unbending
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If you ever use a can of fix-a-flat on an aluminum rim be prepared for the lecture when you go get new tires. Ask me how I know this!

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 Post subject: Re: Tire rim unbending
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I had an interesting experience with a bent rim about 30 years ago. I went to the tire store to get a new tire and a new rim. The tire guy said that I did not need a new rim. He got out a large hammer and hit the rim about 6 or so times. When he was done the rim looked perfect and worked fine.

Oh by the way flyboy71, how do you know that?

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 Post subject: Re: Tire rim unbending
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Are the car makers using aluminum simply to cut back on weight or appearance?
Both. Un-sprung weight is an enemy of good handling.

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 Post subject: Re: Tire rim unbending
PostPosted: Mar Fri 09, 2018 6:25 am 
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My wife hit a pothole and bent the rim on her new Fusion, $150.00 to fix it! We in Michigan have some of the worst roads in the country and those roads along with the low profile tires are a gift to tire stores all over the state!

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 Post subject: Re: Tire rim unbending
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When aluminum wheels first came out a lot of tire stores wouldn't touch them. I don't if it was the tire changing equipment or the wheels but something apparently led to a lot of boogered-up rims and the tire places didn't like the result.

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 Post subject: Re: Tire rim unbending
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They wouldn't touch them because the tire equipment of the day was designed for the steel wheels. The alloy wheels scratched easily - still do, and just the way the tire changer worked it would often damage the bead area which caused leaks. I have no hands on experience on that issue, but when I was a young lad in the 1960's the auto repair business I frequented because they let me use a hoist for my own work if one was empty - Very nice guys - had to get a new tire changer before they would to the alloy wheels.

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 Post subject: Re: Tire rim unbending
PostPosted: Mar Sun 11, 2018 11:56 pm 
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Purchase new rims. Wouldn't trust them even if you could re-do the aluminum...


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