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 Post subject: Victor printed on flip side of a one-sided record
PostPosted: Jul Wed 20, 2011 6:46 pm 
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I've seen a few unique 78s, but this one really takes the taco. Does anyone have any insight on this 78 I picked up today. The Matrix is 66112, Mother in Ireland by John McCormack from 1922. but I have never seen such a design on the back of a record like this before. The white crap you see by the O has been cleared up and it's in pretty good shape.


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 Post subject: Re: Victor printed on flip side of a one-sided record
PostPosted: Jul Wed 20, 2011 7:10 pm 
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I was going to ask a similar question soon. With the lot of RCA test pressings I recently purchased, a couple of them had a similar pattern as yours, although mine is more of a spider web motif. Check it out...


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 Post subject: Re: Victor printed on flip side of a one-sided record
PostPosted: Jul Wed 20, 2011 7:14 pm 
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Try Playing it maybe it's a secret Alien message

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PostPosted: Jul Wed 20, 2011 7:16 pm 
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togermano wrote:
Try Playing it maybe it's a secret Alien message

I tried it, and it sounded like "Paul is dead." ??


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 Post subject: Re: Victor printed on flip side of a one-sided record
PostPosted: Jul Wed 20, 2011 8:32 pm 
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Mine said something about 1945 and bright fiery light bringing about lots of destruction, and some mention about an Austrian dude named Adolf.


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 Post subject: Re: Victor printed on flip side of a one-sided record
PostPosted: Jul Wed 20, 2011 8:41 pm 
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jessejamesv wrote:
Mine said something about 1945 and bright fiery light bringing about lots of destruction, and some mention about an Austrian dude named Adolf.

Makes sense to me

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 Post subject: Re: Victor printed on flip side of a one-sided record
PostPosted: Jul Wed 20, 2011 8:45 pm 
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So anyway, is this kinda something Victor just did to a few records back in the day? I have other one-sided 78s from 20-22 and no others have any designs on them. Does this make it more valuable since it seems uncommon?


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PostPosted: Jul Wed 20, 2011 8:52 pm 
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I have 12 inch disco records that have a design on the other side

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 Post subject: Re: Victor printed on flip side of a one-sided record
PostPosted: Jul Wed 20, 2011 10:26 pm 
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jessejamesv wrote:
So anyway, is this kinda something Victor just did to a few records back in the day? I have other one-sided 78s from 20-22 and no others have any designs on them. Does this make it more valuable since it seems uncommon?


I have quite a few one-side Victor records from before 1920 which have that design on the back.

-David


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 Post subject: Re: Victor printed on flip side of a one-sided record
PostPosted: Jul Thu 21, 2011 3:23 am 
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Same here. In fact, I just bought a one-sided red label batwing disc this last weekend which has the Victor imprint on the back. It's a John McCormack acoustic recording of Ave Maria, likely from the teens or early 20s.

You can see it here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cs8nnjjvG6o


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 Post subject: Re: Victor printed on flip side of a one-sided record
PostPosted: Jul Thu 21, 2011 8:57 am 
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Unfortunately, having the design on the blank side of single sided discs has no effect on value at all. Value is still only determined by the recording itself & condition.
It was actually quite common practice to emboss company logos on the back of discs, particularly in the 1920s.
I think (?) the first company to do it was UK Berliner, who released a special boxed disc to commemorate some royal event.
It became standard practice by around 1902 on Gramophone & Typewriter Co (HMV) disc of all sizes, and they used the recording angel logo like my avatar. HMV continued to use the recording angel on single sided disc into the early electric period, and I've also seen some early Victor discs with this design used when the masters came from Europe.
Here's some pics of a few I could lay my hands on- G&T, Aeolian Vocalion, His Masters Voice & Columbia. I'm pretty sure I've got a Brunswick disc with a design on the reverse somewhere too. There's also a couple Victors with the same pressing as yours, and I've even got that Victor logo on the back of an HMV record. I guess someone at HMV forgot to change the stamper when they got the master from Victor.
You'll often find these designs on the last disc of 30s/40s/50s multi-disc classical recordings which fitted on an odd number of sides.

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 Post subject: Re: Victor printed on flip side of a one-sided record
PostPosted: Jul Thu 21, 2011 7:53 pm 
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Here is a Victor record I have with the Angel logo and info sticker on the reverse side. This one has the Victor "Grand Prize" label (1905 - 1909?).

Steve


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 Post subject: Re: Victor printed on flip side of a one-sided record
PostPosted: Jul Fri 22, 2011 6:09 pm 
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I had a Beethoven 78 RPM set that had one of those designs on the back of one of the records. RCA Victor used to do that with classical sets especially when they featured a complete symphony on 6 records but the piece only actually took up 5 sides. It was not done very often but often enough that it was not considered unusual.


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