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 Post subject: Help reading a schematic GE 216
PostPosted: Aug Sat 04, 2012 11:21 pm 
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I'm replacing the C37A,C37B Electrolytic 80mfd 40 mfd
But on the schematic drawing It reads C37B, C37D
So which one is the 80mfd?
Also i only have a 100mfd, can i use it for the 80?

I try to send the schematic with this message but i don't know how to?


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 Post subject: Re: Help reading a schematic GE 216
PostPosted: Aug Sat 04, 2012 11:34 pm 
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Hi

I found a 218 with those designations:

http://www.nostalgiaair.org/PagesByMode ... 007621.pdf

This one uses a selenium rectifier with resistor before the 1st filter cap. Since they take plate power for the output tube off 1st filter cap this section should be a high value, 80 mf. Are you replacing the selenium rectifier with a 1N4007 silicon diode? This diode can easily handle surge current of a higher filter cap value.

http://www.diodes.com/datasheets/ds28002.pdf

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 Post subject: Re: Help reading a schematic GE 216
PostPosted: Aug Sat 04, 2012 11:49 pm 
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yes i will be replacing the selenium rectifier with resistor.
I have a 100ohm 5w resistor to use.
Will the 100mf be to big?

Thanks for the reply.


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 Post subject: Re: Help reading a schematic GE 216
PostPosted: Aug Sat 04, 2012 11:55 pm 
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A 100 mf first filter cap will be ok but be sure to add a 1N4007 or similar diode. Not just another resistor.

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 Post subject: Re: Help reading a schematic GE 216
PostPosted: Aug Sun 05, 2012 12:07 am 
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Hi Norm... just browsing through and saw your comment about the selenium rectifier. Do think it best to always replace those? I have a radio on my "unknown problem" shelf that I haven't been able to diagnose yet, but the rectifier seems to be working ok.... Is it fooling me?
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 Post subject: Re: Help reading a schematic GE 216
PostPosted: Aug Sun 05, 2012 12:21 am 
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John

You will get differences of opinion about replacing selenium rectifiers. Over time voltage drop increases so output will be less. You don't want to be around a selenium rectifier that gets shorted. It gives off a smell like rotten eggs, worse.

Most Zenith T/O's that I've come across have low B+ voltage due to aging selenium rectifiers. A silicon diode like 1N4007 only costs a few cents and will last for decades.

If your shelf radio is a battery/AC/DC type a selenium rectifier with high voltage drop may be the problem?

I don't want to start the selenium rectifier debate again. It's up to an individual if they replace a selenium rectifier. Some are still in use and operating over 60 years.

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 Post subject: Re: Help reading a schematic GE 216
PostPosted: Aug Sun 05, 2012 12:26 am 
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Yes, it is an AC/Battery model..... I'll check that B+ voltage again.... Good tip, thanks..... And I'm going to stock up on those 1N4007's. You say they can handle house current with no problem, right?

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 Post subject: Re: Help reading a schematic GE 216
PostPosted: Aug Sun 05, 2012 2:53 am 
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1N4007 is rated 1000 volts @ 1 amp but they can withstand 1 cycle of 30 amps. Won't have that in radios.

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