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 Post subject: Re: Lyric / Mohawk antique radio - Cabinet Restoration
PostPosted: Dec Sat 09, 2017 9:50 pm 
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Hi Chaz,

I absolutely was not questioning your ability. The workmanship on your refinished radios speaks for itself, in fact I seldom see radio's refinished that have the depth of color and the very natural look that yours do. You have a real knack for recreating the patina and warm colors of a well cared for original. I personally don't care for the sterile new from the factory look so often achieved by many refinishers.
You also know how to photograph them. :)


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 Post subject: Re: Lyric / Mohawk antique radio - Cabinet Restoration
PostPosted: Dec Sat 09, 2017 10:05 pm 
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chaz wrote:
I did forget to mention that you can go over the whole cabinet with the dark walnut stain.
But in order for the bottom and possibly around the top to be darker ;;stain will not work;;
that is where the toner comes in.

Dan in Calgary

Thanks a lot for this information! I will go with applying the dark walnut over the whole cabinet.

When you said "stain will not work", the stain will not just be absorbed by the wood itself? Like I will be able to completely remove the stain using rags?


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 Post subject: Re: Lyric / Mohawk antique radio - Cabinet Restoration
PostPosted: Dec Sat 09, 2017 10:31 pm 
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Once you apply the stain you will not be able to remove it as it soaks into the wood.
I find that it brings out the grain of the wood and makes it a little darker than natural wood that has just been stripped. As I said before, apply the stain and just let it sit for a day and then wipe the cabinet down just to get any that did not soak into the wood. The toner is for the bottom and around the top of the radio, or any other areas that you want darker.
I sometimes use Vandyke brown for the strips that go up the center of the cabinet, depending on the cabinet style.
Dan in Calgary


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 Post subject: Re: Lyric / Mohawk antique radio - Cabinet Restoration
PostPosted: Jan Sun 14, 2018 11:31 pm 
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Hi Dan,

I too have been watching your work from here in Winnipeg and I also want to say that you do some real cracker restoration work. Will be utilizing some of your techniques on a 6s254 in a moth or so.

Just a clarification: When you say to "apply the stain and let it sit for a day and then just wipe down' are you saying to apply liberally and NOT do a wipe down until the second day or to apply and wipe down and letting it dry until the next day.

Want to buy here in Manitoba some of the Mohawk products but who do you use in Alberta?

Darren


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 Post subject: Re: Lyric / Mohawk antique radio - Cabinet Restoration
PostPosted: Jan Mon 15, 2018 5:46 am 
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Good work Dan

Darren


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 Post subject: Re: Lyric / Mohawk antique radio - Cabinet Restoration
PostPosted: Jan Mon 15, 2018 3:27 pm 
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Darren;

I usually just wipe the stain on the cabinet, so it covers everything.. you don't want it dripping all over, but just apply the stain. wipe it so it is even all over..
The next day take a soft cloth and rub down the cabinet; that will take off any stain that has not soaked into the wood.
There is no special magic way to do it. Apply the stain and let it soak in,, then wipe the excess off.
Dan in Calgary


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 Post subject: Re: Lyric / Mohawk antique radio - Cabinet Restoration
PostPosted: Jan Wed 17, 2018 6:27 pm 
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You can buy Mohawk products at Richelieu.
All you need to do is set up an account with them. you don't have to have a company.
They are the Mohawk distributors for Canada.
Dan in Calgary


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 Post subject: Re: Lyric / Mohawk antique radio - Cabinet Restoration
PostPosted: Jan Fri 19, 2018 12:49 am 
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I see that, Dan. I will be rolling in tommorow and seeing what they have in stock...

Darren


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 Post subject: Re: Lyric / Mohawk antique radio - Cabinet Restoration
PostPosted: Feb Wed 21, 2018 4:11 am 
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chaz wrote:
You can buy Mohawk products at Richelieu.
All you need to do is set up an account with them. you don't have to have a company.
They are the Mohawk distributors for Canada.
Dan in Calgary

Hi Dan,

Great ! I will order the toner at this place.

Seems like this is the good product : https://www.richelieu.com/ca/en/categor ... er/1021586

I saw Mohawk Ultra Classic toner but I don't know the differences... but there is a lot of choice of toner colors at this section : "Tone Finish Toner".

I will finish the cabinet soon!

Thank you for your patience !!!

Guy


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 Post subject: Re: Lyric / Mohawk antique radio - Cabinet Restoration
PostPosted: May Sat 12, 2018 3:53 pm 
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Hello!

I finished the restoration of the cabinet! Here of what it looks like (picture cabinet1).

The only thing, on the third coat of shellac, I have some residue of shellac because I think I "overcoat" the final coat. (picture cabinet2)

What is the easier way to make a clean and flat surface? I tried steel #0000 but it seems not to remove these residue.

Thanks!

Guy


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 Post subject: Re: Lyric / Mohawk antique radio - Cabinet Restoration
PostPosted: May Sun 13, 2018 2:17 am 
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You said you put three coats of shellac ???
I assume you meant lacquer as the final coat. Is that correct?
Did you use a 50/50 mixture of shellac and gas line antifreeze as a sealer?

Dan in Calgary


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 Post subject: Re: Lyric / Mohawk antique radio - Cabinet Restoration
PostPosted: May Mon 14, 2018 4:10 pm 
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chaz wrote:
You said you put three coats of shellac ???
I assume you meant lacquer as the final coat. Is that correct?
Did you use a 50/50 mixture of shellac and gas line antifreeze as a sealer?

Dan in Calgary

Ok I see what I did.... I used Shellac semi gloss (brush application) instead of Lacquer spray.

I continued with steel wool 0000 and the surface is better and clean. I need to be at 1 feet to see the little bumps.

I will post a new picture of the final result with the speaker grill and the knobs.

Thanks!

Guy


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 Post subject: Re: Lyric / Mohawk antique radio - Cabinet Restoration
PostPosted: May Tue 15, 2018 7:31 am 
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Dan in Calgary,
Thank you for taking the time to walk Guy through the refinishing process. I've learned a lot which I plan to utilize as I refinish my Zenith 6s340.

Shawn


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 Post subject: Re: Lyric / Mohawk antique radio - Cabinet Restoration
PostPosted: May Tue 15, 2018 2:53 pm 
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I learned most of what I know about refinishing, here on this forum and using this method.
''How to recreate a 1930 finish.
I pretty much follow this procedure except I don't always use grain filler.

http://www.antiqueradios.com/features/lacquer.html

Dan in Calgary


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