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 Post subject: Zenith zepher 9s367 console refinish
PostPosted: Dec Thu 21, 2017 2:46 am 
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Large 9s367 going to get a fresh refinish job, the tired old finish has seen a lot of new years eve party's with many drinks spilt on the cabinet. Time for a face lift . Stay tuned for the new look for 2018 that tired old gal is going to receive. :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock:


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File comment: Finish was bad, this radio has some of the nicest veneer book matched veneer ive have seen, zenith really did a nice desigh on this baby. Its a common set from what I'm told and doesn't get the praises its surly deserves. This is a tough looking radio. I think its should be worth more than what they bring, some day they will fetch a pretty penny.
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File comment: In order to do the job right is to deasemble the cabinet, to get the very best results is to take all the ribs off. There not glued on, just screws, so no to bad getting it apart.
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File comment: Rib sections and the 2 spines that hold them apart.
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 Post subject: Re: Zenith zepher 9s367 console refinish
PostPosted: Dec Fri 22, 2017 11:46 pm 
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I would love to hear about the steps and products you use in your refinishing process.

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 Post subject: Re: Zenith zepher 9s367 console refinish
PostPosted: Jan Sun 07, 2018 4:32 am 
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Ok ive started back up the cabinet, takin all apart, I have it stripped, sanded and now grain filled. Painted the inside dark zenith blue, I can sand the grain filler off blow it off including the inside where I painted them mask off the inside for when I do the outside. Stay tuned I will be staining and toning soon along with the clear coats for those of you that what to see how I do it.


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File comment: Blue paint still drying, will be satin when dried. I did spray this on, much easier than brushing it on and looks better
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File comment: The woods that have no grain filler don't need it, its not porous like the figured mahogany is.
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File comment: The grain filler I use is called timbermate.
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File comment: Here's the label formula if you want to get the dark blue paint for zenith . This is what I use for the interiors of cabinets that zenith painted dark blue for a number of years. Home depot will mix it up for you, Behr product, paint is satin.
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 Post subject: Re: Zenith zepher 9s367 console refinish
PostPosted: Jan Sun 14, 2018 3:32 pm 
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Going to be a nice one Fred. I can see where taking the cabinet apart as you have done makes it easier to do a better job. I will have to get some of the Behr paint. I have been using something similar in the past, probably very close.


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 Post subject: Re: Zenith zepher 9s367 console refinish
PostPosted: Jan Tue 16, 2018 1:47 pm 
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Got some work done on the zenith, grain filler, stained and toned and 3 coats of sanding sealer. Next I will sand sealer and top coat with lacquer and assemble cabinet. I will post pictures of completed cabinet . Electrical is being worked on and not ready for install back in cabinet, may be while my electrical man Dick Morgan has be sick, he's 82 years old.


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 Post subject: Re: Zenith zepher 9s367 console refinish
PostPosted: Jan Mon 22, 2018 1:49 pm 
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Finished the cabinet over the weekend, looks very nice. Now I can install new grill cloth and wait on the chassis to be gone thru to get it up and playing well.


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 Post subject: Re: Zenith zepher 9s367 console refinish
PostPosted: Jan Mon 22, 2018 2:49 pm 
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Wow , just beautiful work. Thanks for taking the time to share your skills with us. I wish you were closer as I would love to barter my electrical restoration skills with your cabinet expertise.


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 Post subject: Re: Zenith zepher 9s367 console refinish
PostPosted: Jan Mon 22, 2018 10:59 pm 
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Very nice work Fred. Thanks for sharing.


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 Post subject: Re: Zenith zepher 9s367 console refinish
PostPosted: Jan Tue 23, 2018 4:15 pm 
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That is some beautiful grain in the top section, and your finish workmanship shows it off to best advantage.

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 Post subject: Re: Zenith zepher 9s367 console refinish
PostPosted: Feb Thu 01, 2018 5:07 pm 
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Looks great! I know you have likely been asked before, but do you mind sharing the shades of stain and toner you used?
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 Post subject: Re: Zenith zepher 9s367 console refinish
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Yep , I've asked before. Please repeat. Specifics of process and exact colored products between grain filler and sanding sealer stages for the zephyr bars and body please! beautiful!

I have some notes from you on your 12S267 restore..

"-- I used medium walnut on entire cabinet then used medium dark walnut on the trim section then used extra dark walnut spray toner on base and again lightly on all trim to blend in the sections or (joints) of connecting wood trim."

for medium walnut, what brand stain is that? I've only ever used minwax. And for the trim, "medium dark walnut" i presume is a toner. Is that dye or pigment based? For body panels that would be dye, and then the extra dark walnut should be pigment on the trim?

I'm getting close and taking notes.

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 Post subject: Re: Zenith zepher 9s367 console refinish
PostPosted: Feb Sat 03, 2018 5:51 pm 
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Fred - excellent work as usual, but then I would expect no less than that.

I like the fact that you completely disassembled the cabinet during the process, ensuring that each piece gets the exact amount of stain, filler, sealer and final coat. Zenith may have had the cabinets done that way - who knows. But it is certainly obvious in the end product.

I am going to get working on a 10S130 that I have stripped. Hope to make it as nice as the one you did earlier.

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 Post subject: Re: Zenith zepher 9s367 console refinish
PostPosted: Feb Sun 04, 2018 5:23 am 
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I just have to chime in and say that is an absolutely fantastic job on that Zenith! I do have one question, were you able to find the dial scale decals? radiodaze didn't have all of the different dial scale decals I needed, the two shortwave bands weren't available.


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 Post subject: Re: Zenith zepher 9s367 console refinish
PostPosted: Feb Sun 04, 2018 10:48 am 
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I just have to chime in and say that is an absolutely fantastic job on that Zenith! I do have one question, were you able to find the dial scale decals? radiodaze didn't have all of the different dial scale decals I needed, the two shortwave bands weren't available.

Don't know what your referring to on the dial scale decals, I didn't do anything on the dial scale for this radio.


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 Post subject: Re: Zenith zepher 9s367 console refinish
PostPosted: Feb Sun 04, 2018 12:12 pm 
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Yep , I've asked before. Please repeat. Specifics of process and exact colored products between grain filler and sanding sealer stages for the zephyr bars and body please! beautiful!

I have some notes from you on your 12S267 restore..

"-- I used medium walnut on entire cabinet then used medium dark walnut on the trim section then used extra dark walnut spray toner on base and again lightly on all trim to blend in the sections or (joints) of connecting wood trim."

for medium walnut, what brand stain is that? I've only ever used minwax. And for the trim, "medium dark walnut" i presume is a toner. Is that dye or pigment based? For body panels that would be dye, and then the extra dark walnut should be pigment on the trim?

I'm getting close and taking notes.

The stains I'm using is made by Mohawk , other products and brands may be deferent in color. Medium dark walnut stain on the upper section except for the light color maple strip , that was masked off when I stained the cabinet , I sprayed some light golden oak toner on that strip of maple only. Then I sprayed some more light golden oak toner on the entire front and sides right over the medium dark walnut. that gives off the rich color that you see. The grill bars (lower section) was done also with medium dark walnut first then toned with extra dark walnut spray toner. That's it for the color, then sealed and clear coated with your choice of finish. For this radio I finished in a semi satin finish.


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