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DaMadFiddler
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Post subject: Just finished cataloging my Diamond Discs... Posted: Jul Mon 02, 2012 11:27 am |
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Turns out I had more than I thought, including two duplicates (Saxophobia and Kitten on the Keys).
I've heard a few of these songs on YouTube, but I've never gotten to listen to any of these records because I don't currently own a Diamond Disc player. (Yes, I know you can configure a stereo turntable with a 78 rpm setting to play them as well... but I don't have one of those either).
As a result, I'm not 100% sure what I've got here--hence the desire to catalog. I got most of them either in boxed lots of records or because I came across them at the local thrift store and wanted to rescue them. A few are a bit rough around the edges, but most are in very good condition. Any thoughts on which might be worthwhile and which are just rubbish would be appreciated.
(Sorry if the formatting is a bit glitchy; I copy/pasted it from an Excel spreadsheet. Please note that each side is listed as a line item. Items with a reference of xxxx# indicate a disc which did not appear to contain a record number. I also had to guess at a few of the sides, as some of the earlier records didn't always indicate an L or R side).
Reference Label Side Title Artist 50054 Edison R The Two Poets Golden & Hughes 50054 Edison L Bear’s Oil Golden & Hughes 50133 Edison R The International Rag Brass Orchestra 50133 Edison L The Trail of the Lonesome Pine Medley Turkey Trot Brass Orchestra 50304 Edison R Adeste Fideles Sodero’s Band 50304 Edison L Hallelujah Chorus Sodero’s Band 50369 Edison L Medley of Hawaiian Airs - No. 2 Waikiki Hawaiian Orchestra 50369 Edison R On the Beach Medley Waikiki Hawaiian Orchestra 50428 Edison L The Missouri Waltz Jaudas’ Society Orchestra 50428 Edison R Poor Butterfly Jaudas’ Band 50446 Edison L Hello, My Dearie Jaudas’ Society Orchestra 50446 Edison R For the Freedom of the World Jaudas’ Society Orchestra 50465 Edison L Mammy’s Little Coal Black Rose Manuel Romain 50465 Edison R If You Had All the Time in the World Manuel Romain 50473 Edison L The Tickle Toe - Going Up Vernon Dalhart 50473 Edison R I’ll Take You Back to Italy - Jack O’Lantern Ada Jones & Billy Murray 50498 Edison L Just Blue The All Star Trio 50498 Edison R Smiles Jaudas’ Society Orchestra 50553 Edison L Saxophobia Yerkes Saxophone Sextet 50553 Edison R More Candy Jaudas’ Society Orchestra 50553 Edison L Saxophobia Yerkes Saxophone Sextet 50553 Edison R More Candy Jaudas’ Society Orchestra 50554 Edison R My Cairo Love Green Bros. Novelty Orchestra 50554 Edison L The Vamp Green Bros. Novelty Orchestra 50599 Edison L Uncle Josh and the Honey Bees Cal Stewart 50599 Edison R Uncle Josh and Aunt Nancy Put Up the Kitchen Stove Cal Stewart 50606 Edison L Put On Your Old Grey Bonnet Helen Clark & Joseph Phillips 50606 Edison R Daisies Won’t Tell Helen Clark & Joseph Phillips 50656 Edison L Alexandria Max Fells’ Della Robbia Orchestra 50656 Edison R Miami Max Fells’ Della Robbia Orchestra 50666 Edison L Oh By Jingo! Oh By Gee! (You’re the Only Girl for Me) Premier Quartet 50666 Edison R The Hen and the Cow (a Dream of the Past) Billy Murray 50685 Edison R Ben Hur Chariot Race March Brass Orchestra 50685 Edison L Belle of New York March / 2nd Reg’t Conn. NC March Brass Orchestra 50739 Edison L Sally - Medley Harry Raderman’s Jazz Orchestra 50739 Edison R O-H-I-O - Medley Max Fells’ Della Robbia Orchestra 50740 Edison L Arabia Green Bros. Novelty Band 50740 Edison R Do You Ever Think of Me Harry Raderman’s Jazz Orchestra 50799 Edison R The Sidewalk Orlando’s Orchestra 50799 Edison L Persia Orlando’s Orchestra 50824 Edison L I Wonder Where My Sweet Sweet Daddy’s Gone Earl Fuller’s New York Orchestra 50824 Edison R Just Because Earl Fuller’s New York Orchestra 50826 Edison L Cho-Cho-San Conrad’s Orchestra 50826 Edison R One Kiss Conrad’s Orchestra 50898 Edison R Monastery Bells Waltz Henry W. Lange 50898 Edison L Kitten on the Keys Zez Confrey 50907 Edison R Say Persianna Say Phil Ohman’s Dance Orchestra 50907 Edison L Angel Child Broadway Dance Orchestra 50932 Edison L Lola Lo Lanin’s Orchestra 50932 Edison R Jimmy Club de Vingt Orchestra 50941 Edison R When June Comes Along with a Song Broadway Dance Orchestra 50941 Edison L We Two Kaplan’s Melodists 50964 Edison R Do It Again Harry Raderman’s Orchestra 50964 Edison L Teasin’ Vincent Lopez Orchestra 50983 Edison L Suez - Oriental Fox Trot Romance Broadway Dance Orchestra 50983 Edison R Romany Love Broadway Dance Orchestra 51037 Edison L Love Sends a Little Gift of Roses Ernest L. Stevens’ Trio 51037 Edison R Hot Lips Ernest L. Stevens’ Trio 51080 Edison L Jimmy Joseph Knecht’s Waldorf-Astoria Dance Orchestra 51080 Edison R Kiss Mama Kiss Papa Kaplan’s Melodists 51089 Edison L Frolic of the Coons Fred Van Eps 51089 Edison R Lonesome Mama Blues Fred Van Eps 51222 Edison L T’ain’t Nobody’s Biz-ness if I Do Charles A. Matson’s Creole Serenaders 51222 Edison R I Love Me (I’m Wild About Myself) Broadway Dance Orchestra 51229 Edison R I’ve Got the Yes! We Have No Banana Blues The Jazz-o-Harmonists 51229 Edison L Ach! Louie! Atlantic Dance Orchestra 51343 Edison L Don’t Blame It All on Me Tommy Monaco’s Orchestra 51343 Edison R Spain Harry Raderman’s Jazz Orchestra 51353 Edison R Driftwood Harry Raderman’s Dance Orchestra 51353 Edison L Love Is Just a Gamble (Take Another Chance) Nathan Clantz and His Orchestra 51361 Edison R The Wreck on the Southern Old 97 Vernon Dalhart 51361 Edison L I Wasn’t Scared, But I Jst Thought That I Had Better Go Ernest Hare 51379 Edison R Lonely Little Melody Atlantic Dance Orchestra 51379 Edison L My Dream Girl Atlantic Dance Orchestra 51502 Edison R Turkey in the Straw The Blue Ridge Duo 51502 Edison L Susie Ann The Blue Ridge Duo 80412 Edison L Cleopatra Polka Bohumir Kryl 80412 Edison R Egyptia - Characteristic Intermezzo Peerless Orchestra 80456 Edison L Nadja - Oriental Intermezzo Peerless Orchestra 80456 Edison R The Passion Dance (an Oriental Fantasy) Peerless Orchestra 80791 Edison R Coriolan Overture - Part 1 American Concert Orchestra 80791 Edison L Coriolan Overture - Part 2 American Concert Orchestra 82295 Edison L Amoureuse Anna Case 82295 Edison R The Valley of Laughter Anna Case xxxx1 Edison L Somewhere in Hawaii Waikiki Hawaiian Orchestra xxxx1 Edison R Kiss Me Again Waltz Waikiki Hawaiian Orchestra xxxx2 Edison L City of Dreams Jaudas’ Society Orchestra xxxx2 Edison R Beautiful Ohio Waltz Jaudas’ Society Orchestra xxxx3 Edison R Jazbo Jazz Earl Fuller’s Famous Jazz Band xxxx3 Edison L Frivolity George Hamilton Green
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Bill Cahill
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Post subject: Re: Just finished cataloging my Diamond Discs... Posted: Jul Mon 02, 2012 12:56 pm |
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Hi. These are all common titles of no great shakes, but, a number of them I would call good titles. Fairly common stuff, but, some very good. Some not great. There are two I'd like to have. One is Kitten on the keys. Other is: 50964 Edison L Teasin’ Vincent Lopez Orchestra I have side R on cylinder. I like it. I have the diamond disc, but, it's not playable with major lam cracks. If you'd consider trading, or, selling those, please pm me. Otherwise, some of them are very good, albeit common titles. I have a number of them, though alot of them I don't have. Great job on them.... I've been wanting to catalog mine for years. If you lived closer, I'd swap a machine to you. I have one extra I could get rid of. Bill Cahill
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Harold Wright
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Post subject: Re: Just finished cataloging my Diamond Discs... Posted: Jul Mon 02, 2012 2:13 pm |
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Joined: Mar Sun 29, 2009 3:34 am Posts: 520 Location: chancellor al.
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Interesting list of music titles. I have some DD records and a DD player. You probably know that Edison DD was recorded at 81 RPM and playing one on a modified cartridge 78 turntable makes them a bit--sluggish unless your t/table has a speed control adjustment. Some of the DD records I have seen would be "politically incorrect" today. Wonder if that makes them more collectible?
Harold
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Bill Cahill
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Post subject: Re: Just finished cataloging my Diamond Discs... Posted: Jul Mon 02, 2012 4:11 pm |
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Hi, Harold. Officially, for the record, according to Edison records, the speed is 80 rpm. Not that 81 is much diff. Not noticeble, says I. Just informational. Bill Cahill 
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gramophoneshane
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Post subject: Re: Just finished cataloging my Diamond Discs... Posted: Jul Wed 04, 2012 5:31 pm |
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Joined: Apr Sat 12, 2008 8:44 pm Posts: 1021 Location: Brisbane, Queensland, Australia
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Actually I see very few that I personally would call rubbish. Apart from the Hawaiian orchestra & Saxaphone sextet recordings, and some of the band "waltz" recordings, the others I would play (and enjoy) on a regular basis. I'm not a great fan of Helen Clark, but I quite like a lot of her duet recordings, and marches aren't exactly my cup of tea either, but there are a lot of other collectors who enjoy them, & I have to admit that some of my Edison march records were well recorded & sound fantastic. Generally speaking, discs in the 80-82,000 series have a very limited fan base, as these were more classical/traditional recordings, but I've found many of these I have to listen to before desiding whether they are crap or not. Most are fairly boring, but others are real gems. Most of your 50/51,000 popular series records look great. You've got a lot of good jazz & dance orchestra recordings, and artists like Billy Murray, Cal Stewart, Golden & Hughes, and Van Eps are still popular with collectors today. I think most would be $5-$10 discs, and a few perhaps a little more.
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DaMadFiddler
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Post subject: Re: Just finished cataloging my Diamond Discs... Posted: Jul Wed 04, 2012 9:30 pm |
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Joined: Jun Fri 04, 2010 6:16 pm Posts: 2146 Location: San Francisco, CA
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Thanks for the thoughts, everyone. I have been able to find about half the recordings either on YouTube or the UCSB Cylinder Preservation Project, but the rest sit silent until I can find a good deal on a DD player. I like Harry Raderman and Fred Van Eps, Vernon Dalhart is a bit hit-or-miss for me, the Green Bros. stuff is fun, the Zez Confrey record is one I specifically sought out, and most of the others I'm not as familiar with. I know classical tends to have little value, but the Coriolan Overture is one I chose because I really like the piece (I am a violinist, after all). The Creole Singers also seems to be a stand-out title. I didn't choose any of the Hawaiian stuff; it all came as part of boxed lots. I got them from three sources: a couple of eBay boxed lots, the local thrift store, and a local oddities shop ( ViracochaAs I've mentioned, my goal is to find an oak C-250 for the living room. Someone in the east bay was selling one for $80 (!) back in January, but never responded to my emails, and it had been sold by the time I called. The only ones I've seen pop up in the last few months have been dramatically overpriced, so the wait continues. Meanwhile, I'm going to catalog my cylinder collection, then my 78s, and if I have the energy, my LPs. The cylinders shouldn't be too hard, as there are only 9 4-minute cylinders - including one modern release - and twentyish 2-minute. The 78s will be a bit daunting, as I have a bookcase and a half full of them, and I probably have a comparable number of LPs. I hope we don't have to move any time soon... 
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Harold Wright
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Post subject: Re: Just finished cataloging my Diamond Discs... Posted: Jul Mon 09, 2012 2:30 pm |
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Joined: Mar Sun 29, 2009 3:34 am Posts: 520 Location: chancellor al.
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[quote="Bill Cahill"]Hi, Harold. Officially, for the record, according to Edison records, the speed is 80 rpm. Not that 81 is much diff. Not noticeble, says I. Just informational. Bill Cahill  [/quote] Thanks Bill for correct speed. I stand corrected. Slipping memory I guess. Harold
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Bill Cahill
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Post subject: Re: Just finished cataloging my Diamond Discs... Posted: Jul Mon 09, 2012 3:20 pm |
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Not to worry. If I had a penny for everything I've forgotten in just the past 26 years I'd be a very wealthy man, now..... Bill Cahill
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DaMadFiddler
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Post subject: Re: Just finished cataloging my Diamond Discs... Posted: Jul Mon 09, 2012 3:26 pm |
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Almost done with my cylinders as well. I expect to have a list of those (along with videos of all of them playing) up in the next day or two.
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