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 Post subject: Empire Turntable
PostPosted: Feb Mon 26, 2018 1:56 pm 
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I picked this up at Auction. I'm not sure if it qualifies as an "antique" but if someone can please point me in the direction of how to identify it by model number so I can purchase the proper parts, appreciated. Or perhaps, an applicable forum? I've been unsuccessful so far.

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Barry
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 Post subject: Re: Empire Turntable
PostPosted: Feb Mon 26, 2018 2:07 pm 
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Don't have a clue what it is but it sure is pretty! Looks like a solid machine.

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 Post subject: Re: Empire Turntable
PostPosted: Feb Mon 26, 2018 2:09 pm 
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That's an Empire 398. ARF has a " Vintage Audio Equipment" category in which you can post your needs on but I think your best bet is to go on Audiokarme and post your needs there.

https://www.google.com/search?q=Empire+ ... 0&bih=1070

Belt https://www.ebay.com/i/121591700203?chn=ps

Cartridge https://www.google.com/search?client=fi ... Ywue-AF6aI

Cabinet https://www.google.com/search?client=fi ... djf9GtNwAI

Restoration https://www.google.com/search?client=fi ... qTP8n3atDM

Audiokarma http://audiokarma.org/forums/index.php

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 Post subject: Re: Empire Turntable
PostPosted: Feb Mon 26, 2018 4:49 pm 
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Thanks so much for the links, Indiana!! I thought it was one of those X98 models but sheesh... which. I've drawn the short straw to transfer my entire family's collection of LP to digital. I've already got a broadcast preamp to be restored... finally found a worthy turntable to go with it.

I'll post the restoration of those here probably. When I get to them. Next month, or in the year 2525

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 Post subject: Re: Empire Turntable
PostPosted: Feb Mon 26, 2018 5:56 pm 
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This is a great turntable. I still have the one I purchased in 1967 and in my own case have kept all the albums acquired over time. The belt can be a troublesome feature.

This harkens to the time when we still had those marvelous shops that sold high-fi/stereo gear exclusively. Racks and floor space filled with the great names in audio including Fisher, Scott, McIntosh, JBL, Harmon-Kardon, Sherwood, Acoustic Research, KLH, Bozak, Bell, Pilot, Bogen, Ampex, Advent, Dynaco, Heathkit, EICO, Marantz, Pioneer, Sansui, SONY.... and the list goes on and on.

A pair of Audio Empire's Royal Grenadier speakers would round out any set-up. Heads turn among younger people when they are treated to quality audio from a vintage set-up and we're not even in the realm of the audio-fools.


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 Post subject: Re: Empire Turntable
PostPosted: Feb Mon 26, 2018 6:21 pm 
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Alger, you nailed it. I "used to" have a pretty similar setup but it was not Empire. My plans include, if I live long enough, building some tube amps. Just for fun. Unless I manage to find some at some secluded auction somewhere... the audiophools bid that stuff up to the stratosphere otherwise.

My last setup had a Phase Linear 400, which always sounded a bit metallic to me. I'm running now on a <koff koff> high end Yamaha reciever/amplifier lol. Oh well. I should have kept my old Dynakits. shoulda coulda woulda .........

I lost a set of Voice of the Theater 15" cabinets and horns in a fire along with a lot of other fine stuff that I sometimes wonder what if.......

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 Post subject: Re: Empire Turntable
PostPosted: Feb Tue 27, 2018 11:31 pm 
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You can get the correct belt here. Scroll to bottom of page to the belt section. https://www.esotericsound.com/access.htm


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 Post subject: Re: Empire Turntable
PostPosted: Mar Fri 02, 2018 2:12 pm 
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Thanks for the replies. I was able to order the belt, and will restore the rest of it as time permits.

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 Post subject: Re: Empire Turntable
PostPosted: Mar Sun 04, 2018 9:34 pm 
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Buy the "Rek O Kut" belt from Esoteric -- not the Empire belt. Trust me.


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 Post subject: Re: Empire Turntable
PostPosted: Mar Mon 05, 2018 1:04 pm 
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Thanks for the tip on the rekokut belt. I'll definitely research that. Sounds logical ... Rekokut was a force in the industry back in the day. I'd quite forgotten the name.

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 Post subject: Re: Empire Turntable
PostPosted: Mar Tue 06, 2018 12:50 am 
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More specifically that is an Empire 398G (gold). A nice find in good condition as the gold finish has a tenancy to not age well at all.

Get your beverage of choice and read this thread.
http://audiokarma.org/forums/index.php? ... ry.278075/

In regards to the belt. I obsessed over the correct belt once. Finally .. get the rekokut true speed.
http://audiokarma.org/forums/index.php? ... st-9953937

The table is build like a tank and will perform well. The headshells are problematic but if you search ebay you'll find someone selling replacement carriers. (I have not tried one in mine).

Steve


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