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bandersen
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Post subject: TV - Radio repair shop in Chicago Posted: Jul Mon 11, 2011 11:08 pm |
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Joined: May Fri 29, 2009 4:35 am Posts: 1070 Location: Chicago, IL USA
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Post subject: Re: TV - Radio repair shop in Chicago Posted: Jul Mon 11, 2011 11:19 pm |
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Joined: Feb Thu 17, 2011 11:27 pm Posts: 2935 Location: Long Island, N.Y.
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Cool! I love ruins and treasure hunting! I can only imagine the sets that passed through that place through the years. Stories like this always remind me of an old local radio repair shop I was in several times as a kid. This was as late as the early '80's! You went in and everywhere you looked were stacks of dusty original old radios. Consoles and tabletops. The owner just horded them in the front area. I remember clearly a '37 RCA 813K by the front door. I would love turning the weighted dials of the sets. It's was all gone a few years later.
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Electronic Memory
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Post subject: Re: TV - Radio repair shop in Chicago Posted: Jul Mon 11, 2011 11:57 pm |
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Joined: Nov Thu 11, 2010 6:03 pm Posts: 397 Location: Pewaukee, WI
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That is darn cool!  I wish I could find places like that to pick.... There are only so many of these places left so when we pick one we should do our utmost save everything we can even if it is only good for parts. If you have any of the right type of junk from there that you want to dispose of you can PM me. Tom C.
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ChrisW6ATV
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Post subject: Posted: Jul Tue 12, 2011 12:58 am |
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Joined: Dec Thu 06, 2007 11:54 pm Posts: 717 Location: Hayward, California USA
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As I posted in the projection TV topic: bandersen wrote: I can't speak for all repair shops, but I did pull these right off the shelves of one. They also had a few Sams, but mostly is was just the Riders. Unfortunately, vandals had pretty well ransacked the place, so I don't have any good photos of the work area. Wow, the Radio-TV Lab. That was an incredible place for years when it was in business, run by George Sopocko, WA9JEZ if I remember his call and name spelling right. My brother and I bought a bunch of parts and things from him in the late 70's to early 1980's. It was so full of neat old ham radio equipment and other devices, you had to carefully step around things to get anywhere in the store. He had a Predicta Pedestal in the window for several years, but I do not remember him having any really old TV sets at the time (though I would not have known to pay attention to color TVs then). I moved from Chicago to California in 1984, and I do not remember if I ever returned to that store on any trips, nor did I know when it closed. It is sad to hear that it had a destructive end, rather than the glorious and respectful estate-sale-type auction and documentation that George's store (and his life) deserved. So, this store just closed last winter? That would help explain why I never heard about it earlier. Now I really wish I had gone back there in recent years, since I got back into antique TV collecting. One of your older pictures seems to show a box full of tube shields; there must have been great quantities of good items there at the start. In that back yard, once a year George would have what he called a "mini-hamfest" where he would sell all kinds of surplus equipment and parts, ham radio magazines, etc.
_________________ (Antique TV collecting) always seemed to me to be a fringe hobby that only weirdos did.
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bandersen
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Post subject: Re: TV - Radio repair shop in Chicago Posted: Jul Tue 12, 2011 1:28 am |
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Joined: May Fri 29, 2009 4:35 am Posts: 1070 Location: Chicago, IL USA
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Post subject: Re: TV - Radio repair shop in Chicago Posted: Jul Tue 12, 2011 1:42 am |
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Joined: Nov Thu 11, 2010 6:03 pm Posts: 397 Location: Pewaukee, WI
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Nice haul! You saved a nice load of treasures from the dump, good job. Tom C.
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bandersen
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Post subject: Re: TV - Radio repair shop in Chicago Posted: Jul Tue 12, 2011 1:48 am |
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Joined: May Fri 29, 2009 4:35 am Posts: 1070 Location: Chicago, IL USA
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Thanks! I've already restored two late 40s Motorola TVs and a Grunow 1191 radio using these parts 
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Post subject: Re: TV - Radio repair shop in Chicago Posted: Jul Tue 12, 2011 3:40 am |
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Joined: Sep Thu 14, 2006 3:27 pm Posts: 3520 Location: Carmel, Indiana
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 I wonder if the owner had these to bottles as souvenirs or just hadn't gotten around to drinking them yet. Is Coke still sold in bottles in Chicago or has it all gone plastic and cans like it has here in Indy?
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wiscojim
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Post subject: Re: TV - Radio repair shop in Chicago Posted: Jul Tue 12, 2011 3:57 am |
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Joined: Sep Fri 07, 2007 2:27 am Posts: 2666 Location: Appleton, Wisconsin
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Thanks for posting the update Bob. I was going to head down early for the August meet in Willowbrook, and make one more attempt at recovering "goodies" from the heap out back, now I know not to waste my time.
Before Bob got in to see the remaining stuff that you see in his pictures, I got 11 van loads of parts, literature, service manuals, and all sorts of electronic junk out of there. Remember how cold Chicago was last December? I spent 17 days in that building, without heat, water, or lights. I was often working with a headlamp and gloves. The store had been trashed, all the parts and literature tossed about. I even used a snow shovel a few times to scoop up miscellaneous parts off the floor and into transport bins. And on my last day when Bob came for a look, there was still a lot of stuff that I didn't want to deal with. Thousands of old electronic magazines, thousands of used tubes, tons of miscellaneous hardware, transformers, wires, etc. But me and my aching back had enough!
Sometimes I look at the storage bin full of stuff I got from there and think how foolish I was. But at least I saved tons of it, which will eventually all get sorted and filtered back into the radio collecting community. I still have lots more sorting to do. My garage, living room, and dining room are full of bins and boxes of stuff. I thought for sure I'd be done months ago, but this job never seems to end. I'll try to post some pictures later showing my dining room and garage as they are now.
I wonder who got stuck with cleaning out the remaining mess? There was no way to get a bucket loader and dumpster inside the building.
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bandersen
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Post subject: Re: TV - Radio repair shop in Chicago Posted: Jul Tue 12, 2011 4:27 am |
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Joined: May Fri 29, 2009 4:35 am Posts: 1070 Location: Chicago, IL USA
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There were about a dozen coke bottles still full. I got the impression they were just forgotten over the years. I do still see coke in bottles now and then, but it's definitely not the norm.
I left plenty behind too. Used power transformers, chokes, huge power resistors etc. All the magazines too. I just don't have the room for that kind of stuff.
The last time I was there was about a month ago. The backyard was clean as a whistle. The was a lot of stuff piled in the alley though. Seems they didn't want to fork out for a dumpster. Mostly scrap wood, metal and broken glass. Scavengers were picking through even that. Maybe looking for any scrap of copper wire.
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wiscojim
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Post subject: Re: TV - Radio repair shop in Chicago Posted: Jul Tue 12, 2011 5:33 am |
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Joined: Sep Fri 07, 2007 2:27 am Posts: 2666 Location: Appleton, Wisconsin
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Various pictures (March through July) of parts sorting going on in my house from the Radio/TV Lab salvage. My dining room:   Hallway to the first floor guest bedroom:  First floor guest bedroom:  The kitchen:  The living room:   Watch for me to appear on "Hoarders" next season. .
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Post subject: Re: TV - Radio repair shop in Chicago Posted: Jul Tue 12, 2011 5:38 am |
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Joined: Jan Thu 01, 1970 1:00 am Posts: 3477 Location: Federalsburg, MD
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Over the last couple years I cleaned out a TV shop that had been around for 50 years. I'll never forget it! Pickup load after pickup load I carried home. Just when I thought I was almost done, I found more stuff. I don't have nearly as much stuff piled up at home as wisco, but some corners around here are pretty close! 95% of it would have been landfill by now. Are we all knocking on doors, saving this stuff while it still exists?
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Post subject: Re: TV - Radio repair shop in Chicago Posted: Jul Tue 12, 2011 6:06 am |
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Joined: Sep Fri 07, 2007 2:27 am Posts: 2666 Location: Appleton, Wisconsin
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Some views of more of the Radio/TV Lab salvage stuff in my garage. In the first picture I am sorting mixed inventory into cartons of similar items. In total I brought home around 260 cartons of parts, 90 crates of service literature, 30 grocery bags full of books and magazines, over 80 round scope CRT's, thousands of tubes, lots of service equipment, stereo components, radios, TVs, parts chassis, antennas, and miscellaneous. There are still another 60 or so cartons at a rented storage bin with my other old car, a 1967 Dodge Coronet 440. You can see part of my '57 Chevy hiding in this garage. The Chevy is up for sale. As you can see I have no room for it!      .
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Post subject: Re: TV - Radio repair shop in Chicago Posted: Jul Tue 12, 2011 6:45 am |
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Umm, so what will you do with all this stuff?
_________________ *******\\\\\\\\\******He Who Dies With The Most Radios Wins******/////////*******
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Post subject: Re: TV - Radio repair shop in Chicago Posted: Jul Tue 12, 2011 1:58 pm |
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Joined: Sep Fri 07, 2007 2:27 am Posts: 2666 Location: Appleton, Wisconsin
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fifties wrote: Umm, so what will you do with all this stuff? I had to buy salvage rights to the whole store to get what I wanted out of it. There was no quick way to do a selective treasure hunt, the store was such a mess. What I saw and wanted represented about 5% of the total. I'll fully stock my parts bins, fill in some gaps in my service files, keep the early TV parts as I collect mainly TVs now, keep some of the more interesting projects, and all the rest will get sold or given away. I'll sell through here, Craigslist, eBay, all the Midwest area radio meets. With some help I may set up a website to list and picture the inventory and then take offers on whatever people want out of it. A lot will be given away to friends in the hobby and donated to clubs for their donation auctions. Bulk lots of items that I have no interest in will be up for grabs for anyone willing to head to NE Wisconsin to come make offers on. I may schedule a few rummage sales for the radio collectors to come, browse, and select whatever they want in smaller quantities. That all probably won't happen until next spring, once it is all sorted and organized. My main reasons for buying this were twofold. Firstly, it was all headed for the landfill. I didn't want to see all this stuff go that way. Once gone, it's gone forever. Secondly, the price I had to pay to get salvage rights for what I wanted allowed me to take as little or as much as I wanted to. The more I dug, the more I saw stuff that other people could use. I felt an obligation to save and share this with others. The price to buy the salvage rights was really cheap, but the motels, 11 round trips at over 200 miles each, the wear and tear on my back, and my time all add up to a more significant investment in this stuff. If I had to do it all over again, I'm not sure that I would. I'd probably spend 3 or 4 days digging through the piles grabbing everything I wanted, and then have an open house for the other collectors to grab all they wanted at a per day fee. That would have saved me from spending all this time sorting it and turning my house into a disaster area. The thing that pretty much prevented me from doing that this time was that the building was supposedly under foreclosure, and I never knew if the next day the store would be locked with no more access. I had to scramble to salvage what I could quickly. .
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Post subject: Re: TV - Radio repair shop in Chicago Posted: Jul Tue 12, 2011 3:15 pm |
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Wow, amazing pictures and story! Thanks Bob and Jim for documenting this piece of history. I certainly remember George as I also grew up in Chicago. His prices on ham gear were always a bit ridiculous. I'm not sure he ever sold much of anything, he just kept acquiring more! It was nearly impossible to walk through his store, it was packed so tight. He also went to all the area ham fests as a buyer. I remember him making low ball offers on stuff I was selling. I heard that he had passed away several years ago. I'm surprised to learn that the store and a lot of its contents stuck around much longer. And wiscojim, you certainly deserve a medal for extraordinary effort for salvaging all that radio/TV history! Good luck sorting it all out and getting your house back to normal -Clark
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Post subject: Re: TV - Radio repair shop in Chicago Posted: Jul Tue 12, 2011 8:21 pm |
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Joined: Jan Thu 01, 1970 1:00 am Posts: 3085 Location: Bolingbrook, IL
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I remember George as far back as the 60's and he alwasy was a character / hoarder.
At one time you had to walk sidways down every aisle.
I am surprised that it sold for picking unless his family just didnt want to deal with it.
George was active until the very end.
_________________ Art's Antique Radio Collection - A work in progress
http://www.myantiqueradio.com
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Post subject: Re: TV - Radio repair shop in Chicago Posted: Jul Tue 12, 2011 9:52 pm |
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Joined: Sep Fri 07, 2007 2:27 am Posts: 2666 Location: Appleton, Wisconsin
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Clark, K9OA wrote: And wiscojim, you certainly deserve a medal for extraordinary effort for salvaging all that radio/TV history! Good luck sorting it all out and getting your house back to normal -Clark Thanks Clark! .
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wiscojim
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Post subject: Re: TV - Radio repair shop in Chicago Posted: Jul Tue 12, 2011 10:16 pm |
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oldradio99 wrote: I remember George as far back as the 60's and he alwasy was a character / hoarder.
At one time you had to walk sidways down every aisle.
I am surprised that it sold for picking unless his family just didnt want to deal with it.
George was active until the very end. George hoarded a lot of stuff into this store and into its basements. George also had an unsuccessful "liquidation sale" at the time he closed the store in 1998. I think he sold the contents to Elite Audio and/or Triode Electronics that occupied the building after he left, so I doubt the family had anything to do with it more recently. Both of those businesses must not have thought much of the old TV/radio stuff, as they left it behind when they departed. Triode still has a good presence on their web site, I have no idea what happened to the Elite Audio business. For all I know, they could both have been names used by the same business. Triode was apparently into stuff like rebuild kits for Dynaco amps. I bought the salvage rights from an eBayer who previously purchased the rights and had already taken out what he wanted. I would have liked to have seen all that he got before me. The way I found out about the store's contents was through this eBay seller. I won one of his auctions, and when I went down to pick up the winnings, our conversation led to where he got them. A few days later we met at the store and struck a mutually satisfying deal. I invited Bob down for a look on my last day in there because I always enjoy reading his TV posts and watching his videos, and I knew he lived in the general area where the store was located. I'm glad he was able to retrieve some interesting stuff out of the remaining mess. .
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Post subject: Re: TV - Radio repair shop in Chicago Posted: Jul Wed 13, 2011 2:08 pm |
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Joined: Jan Thu 01, 1970 1:00 am Posts: 3085 Location: Bolingbrook, IL
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Where does the time go?
It is hard to believe that the business closed in 1998 - 13 years ago.
Seems like just 2-3 years ago I saw George at Radiofest with his straw hat.
I must be getting old.
_________________ Art's Antique Radio Collection - A work in progress
http://www.myantiqueradio.com
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