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 Post subject: Help identifying Sparton console
PostPosted: Jul Sat 14, 2012 3:18 pm 
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I have searched all over the net with no luck trying to identify this radio. I can tell it's a Crosley from the dial but no model number. Any ideas? Thanks


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 Post subject: Re: Help identifying Crosley console
PostPosted: Jul Sat 14, 2012 5:02 pm 
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I don't think that is a Crosley.

Looks like a 1936 Sparton 1066 to me.

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 Post subject: Re: Help identifying Crosley console
PostPosted: Jul Sat 14, 2012 5:17 pm 
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That's it. I googled it and its the exact same console. No wonder I couldn't find it anywhere. From a distance I guessed Crosley :oops: Thanks so much for your help I appreciate it.


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 Post subject: Re: Help identifying Crosley console
PostPosted: Jul Sat 14, 2012 5:22 pm 
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No problem!
I have to admit, it does look a bit like a Crosley. :wink:

I just wish my Sparton 1066 wasn't refinished....

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 Post subject: Re: Help identifying Crosley console
PostPosted: Jul Sat 14, 2012 5:30 pm 
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I found this one for sale. I really like the style of the cabinet. The people are asking $100. From the condition of this one I was thinking of offering $75. You think that's to much or not enough?


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 Post subject: Re: Help identifying Crosley console
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Personally, I wouldn't bat an eye to pay $100 for it. Though, you can always make the offer. If they refuse, then grab it for $100 :D

It is a nice 10 tube radio. Not quite the radio chassis the Nocturne has, but still very respectable!

The Nocturne has variable bandwidth IF transformers where the coupling is mechanically moved. The 1066 also has a bandwidth switch, but it is done electronically and only has two positions as I recall.

The 1066 was introduced late in the 1936 season and is not in the regular brochure. Thanks to this thread, we can see it in two different cabinet styles.

http://www.antiqueradios.com/forums/vie ... 1&t=172751

Good luck! I would go for it if it was local and/or you weren't already interested. :wink:

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 Post subject: Re: Help identifying Crosley console
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I'm meeting them tonight about that Sparton. Would you possibly have the schematic for it? I couldn't find it on Nostalgia air.


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 Post subject: Re: Help identifying Crosley console
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Certainly!

http://antiqueradios.com/gallery/d/147312-1/1066-2.jpg

It is NOT in Riders for some odd reason. :? I uploaded it to the Gallery for anyone to use.
If you need more information, let me know.

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 Post subject: Re: Help identifying Crosley console
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Steve,
Thanks for all your help today. I really do appreciate it. I got the Sparton for the $75. It really is in nice shape, finish is almost perfect. It has a Zenith wave magnet attached to it for some reason. I'll let you know how it turns out after I get it on the bench. Thanks again :D


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Most all radio's made before 1940 did not have a built in antenna , some just staple wore inside of cabinet for a antenna , some make loop antennas for them

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I started digging into this Sparton tonight. I found what I'm guessing are capacitors. They appear to be covered in a tar like substance. Reminds me of the tar in Philco bakelite blocks. Are they really caps or something else? They are in pretty bad shape so I can not read any writing on any of them.


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need to see bigger picture , at my age I almost got out a magnifier to look at your picture lol

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Sorry, I guess I overdid it shrinking it down.


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 Post subject: Re: Help identifying Sparton console
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Those are caps as far as I know. I would have to open mine up to see if mine uses thouse, but they look like the wooden dowel type of cap such as the Cornell-Dubilier "Cub". I found those to be very difficult to "stuff" :wink:

They aren't coil-cap combos, so probably the best way to identify them is to use the schematic to trace where they are connected.

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Looks like someone long time ago raped what is fall friction tape or black cloth tape over that cap maybe to keep it from touching something , there was some made with Black paper and printed with orange color type

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Daniel Hilderbrand wrote:
...Looks like someone long time ago raped what is fall friction tape...


I sure hope not. :lol:

That word should be "wrapped"! :shock: :? :o :lol:

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 Post subject: Re: Help identifying Sparton console
PostPosted: Jul Wed 18, 2012 3:17 am 
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Thank you guys for your help again. I thought they probably were caps but just wanted to check first. Never have seen this type before and didn't want to mess this beautiful radio up.


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 Post subject: Re: Help identifying Sparton console
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missouriguy wrote:
I have searched all over the net with no luck trying to identify this radio. I can tell it's a Crosley from the dial but no model number. Any ideas? Thanks

So you are from St Clair? I'm located in Leslie. Just latched on to a 1939 Philco floor model in excellent shape. Got it all working and installed a "sloper" antenna for BC and SW. Been working on these radios since the late 50's.
Hope you have luck with getting the model no. You might try the chassis # since many models had the same chassis. That rough looking electrolytic had some numbers on it. Looks like 20uf @ 100 and 5uf @ 400. Be careful when alligning, use as little signal as you need to get a reading. The trimmer caps (padders) will give you a reading at several places diring the adjustment if too much generator signal is used. By the way, the radio looks good! Ed Lebish.


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So you are from St Clair? I'm located in Leslie. Just latched on to a 1939 Philco floor model in excellent shape. Got it all working and installed a "sloper" antenna for BC and SW. Been working on these radios since the late 50's.
Hope you have luck with getting the model no. You might try the chassis # since many models had the same chassis. That rough looking electrolytic had some numbers on it. Looks like 20uf @ 100 and 5uf @ 400. Be careful when alligning, use as little signal as you need to get a reading. The trimmer caps (padders) will give you a reading at several places diring the adjustment if too much generator signal is used. By the way, the radio looks good! Ed Lebish.



Small world, practically right down the road from you. A fellow ARF member identified mine as a Sparton 1066. It's a beauty. Already have a spot picked out in the living room for it once shes done. Takes me a bit longer to finish a radio then others. I've only been playing with them for about a year. Everyone on here has been a great help. Without them all my radios would be sitting in the basement in pieces. :D


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 Post subject: Re: Help identifying Sparton console
PostPosted: Jul Fri 27, 2012 4:58 pm 
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I've been playing around with this Sparton console this week. I maybe wrong but I don't think its a model 1066. Electrolytic capacitors weren't matching up with the schematic first. Then I found out the tubes aren't matching either. The 1066 has 11 counting the visoglo tube. Mine has 12 counting the visoglo. This radio has three 6k7 tubes, three 6c5, two 6F6, a 6H6, a 5Z3, a 6L7, and finally a 6E5 visoglo.
I'm very confused at this point. Maybe I'm just really reading the schematic wrong. I can't find any tags on the cabinet or chassis to positively identify this radio. Any help would be appreciated.


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