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 Post subject: Re: what happened to the Shortwave Band (5.0mc - 18.0mc)?
PostPosted: Nov Mon 02, 2015 1:36 am 
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I have a number of clients who are Mom-and-Pop local stations that originate their own programming and serve their communities. One example is an AM that does high school football and basketball, is present at a large number of community activities, and has local bands playing in the studios live on the air on most Saturday afternoons. Although they carry a few syndicated programs (none of them by satellite) most of their day is locally programmed music-on-hard-drive, but weekday mornings are live.



Those are getting to be very few and far between. It seems like it wasn't all that long ago every small town across America had its own AM station. I grew up in a town of about 8000 and we had a couple. All local programming, including football and basketball games from the local high school. However, once radio turned corporate, even these stations weren't safe. By about 2004, both were playing nothing but the canned crap that was being streamed from somewhere else. Now, one of the station buildings has been demolished and the other is abandoned with a roof that looks like it has maybe one more snowstorm left in it. I don't think either of them is on the air anymore, even in their corporate canned format.

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 Post subject: Re: what happened to the Shortwave Band (5.0mc - 18.0mc)?
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Steve, there is a very good possibility I heard you. :D

Here is the letter I got back after requesting a QSL card. I thought I gave them what they needed and more... Oh well, at least I got this!
I seem to have scribbled my own notes on it. :P

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 Post subject: Re: what happened to the Shortwave Band (5.0mc - 18.0mc)?
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we are blessed with at least one local music station in each of the surrounding counties. some have live dj's, others have satellite music with local commercials and ads between the songs.

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 Post subject: Re: what happened to the Shortwave Band (5.0mc - 18.0mc)?
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wow, steve. wouldn't that have been just weird if you heard me ? it was a friday night on my birthday weekend in late january, in probably 1984 as seen below.

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 Post subject: Re: what happened to the Shortwave Band (5.0mc - 18.0mc)?
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The chances are very high! I was listening to them as much as I could. I just loved the idea of music coming across the vast distances. :D
The signal shifting and fading just added to the mystique.

Yeah, I'm a nerd...

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 Post subject: Re: what happened to the Shortwave Band (5.0mc - 18.0mc)?
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My most memorable SWL experience happened late one night at work in late April, 1986. I was working an overnight shift doing some maintenance on one of the transmitters at the AM station where I was chief engineer. I kept a Korean War vintage military surplus SW receiver in the shop (which was also the transmitter room) connected to a long wire to listen to when I was working an overnight maintenance shift. That night I was listening to, IIRC, Deutsche Welle. In their newscasts they began reporting a rise in measured radiation in the air over Europe. I abandoned the maintenance and started dialing in some of the other European shortwave broadcasters including the BBC World Service. I was listening to some of the first reports concerning what became known as the Chernobyl disaster.

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 Post subject: Re: what happened to the Shortwave Band (5.0mc - 18.0mc)?
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i heard about the disaster too on BBC. that was in april 24th or 26th, 1986 if i recall.

i also listened to Radio Kiev that evening and was telling my 10th grade geography teacher about it the next day.

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 Post subject: Re: what happened to the Shortwave Band (5.0mc - 18.0mc)?
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Steve, I wonder if it was Ron St John you talked with on the air?

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 Post subject: Re: what happened to the Shortwave Band (5.0mc - 18.0mc)?
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There's still plenty of stations out there, they are just not "armchair copy" any more. Pick the right time of day and the right frequency, you can hear stations from all around the world - well, I can - you may not be able to, as I understand from U.S.

That can't be stressed enough. I have a couple of little Japanese portable Transistor Am/SW sets that, after midnight here on the west coast, can tune quite a few SW stations. It may not be as good as years before, but it's still there.


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Oh, don't forget those interval signals such as the piano jingles from Radio Canada and Deutsche Welle. :D

It puzzled me why they would play those things over and over... Now I know it was so you could locate them on an inaccurate analog tuned radio.

Ahh, the memories.

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That just jogged my memory;
Being stationed in West Germany in the '60's and twirling the dial of my Philips 5 tube set in the barracks, I could sometimes get the faint signal, and chimes on the hour, from "the voice of the German Democratic Republic", propaganda transmitter in East Germany.

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 Post subject: Re: what happened to the Shortwave Band (5.0mc - 18.0mc)?
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THAT name sounds very much right.

i stand corrected.

that qsl shown above from feb 17, 1984 was most likely from that night i was put on air. it was probably not in january around my birthday as i thought.

i looked on a calendar and the day/date match up.

heck, i'm going back 30 years trying to remember all this :shock: .

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 Post subject: Re: what happened to the Shortwave Band (5.0mc - 18.0mc)?
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azenithnut wrote:
Oh, don't forget those interval signals such as the piano jingles from Radio Canada and Deutsche Welle. :D

It puzzled me why they would play those things over and over... Now I know it was so you could locate them on an inaccurate analog tuned radio.

Ahh, the memories.

-Steve

Radio South Africa had a pleasant interval signal with the chirping birds (emanating from an unpleasant regime). Radio Nederland and the BBC used carillons/chimes. I miss Tom Meyer and his "Happy Station" on Radio Nederland. I still have a Happy Station pennant hanging on the wall.

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 Post subject: Re: what happened to the Shortwave Band (5.0mc - 18.0mc)?
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I was listening on the evening (in UK) of November 22nd 1963 when Kennedy was shot in Dallas - I dashed downstairs to tell my Dad and he didn't believe me. I ran down the street to my girlfriends place as they just announced on the TV.

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 Post subject: Re: what happened to the Shortwave Band (5.0mc - 18.0mc)?
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azenithnut wrote:
Oh, don't forget those interval signals such as the piano jingles from Radio Canada and Deutsche Welle. :D

It puzzled me why they would play those things over and over... Now I know it was so you could locate them on an inaccurate analog tuned radio.

Ahh, the memories.

-Steve

I think those tones were called "step tones". They were broadcast by USSR on the same freq as Voice Of America as well as Radio Free Europe etc. Their primary purpose was to drown out and interfere I believe.

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 Post subject: Re: what happened to the Shortwave Band (5.0mc - 18.0mc)?
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Dutch Rabbit wrote:
THAT name sounds very much right.

i stand corrected.

that qsl shown above from feb 17, 1984 was most likely from that night i was put on air. it was probably not in january around my birthday as i thought.

i looked on a calendar and the day/date match up.

heck, i'm going back 30 years trying to remember all this :shock: .

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Amazing... February 17, 1984 is the exact date of the postmark on the envelope! :D

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 Post subject: Re: what happened to the Shortwave Band (5.0mc - 18.0mc)?
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Hi Guys,

Thanks for all the input and nostalgia. I might as well add some of my own.
In the late 60's, I had a RCA 66X2 which was a wedding present to my parents. (1946)
While I was away at college, I took it with me and strung a modest aerial at my dorm.

I was amazed at the reception. Although I only had the 9.0 to 12.0 MC,
the set picked up all over the world, especially at night. Moscow, Netherlands, South
Africa, BBC, Germany were all present and with great volume.

I got into the QSL mode and have cards from all over the world. A unique way to
pass the time. It really kindled my interest in old radios and shortwave.

I imagine if i got serious again and had the right evening time, and weather
conditions, reception might be much more favorable, but I'm sorry to see the shortwave
broadcasts fade away.

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I was just getting into shortwave listening in 1968. Radio Prague had a dependable transmission every night in the 40 meter band. I heard them broadcast the news of the Soviet invasion and pleas for assistance from the Western World. I didn't listen long enough to hear when the Soviet invaders took over the radio station. While I was only 13 years years old, it remains a very vivid memory.

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 Post subject: Re: what happened to the Shortwave Band (5.0mc - 18.0mc)?
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You can find the ABC (Radio Australia) early mornings from 4:00AM EST (and later through the breakfast hours) in the US quite strong on 31 meters. On Saturday and Sunday afternoons, Radio Nacional de España broadcasts futbol and other sports, in Spanish, also very strong, on 19 and 16 meters.

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Hello WRTH is still around online now.There are still a few stations out there to hear.Sad whats happen to SW Radio tho,seems just about everythings on the web now days.Can still get many BCB stations on my radio tho.Sprman

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azenithnut wrote:
Dutch Rabbit wrote:
THAT name sounds very much right.

i stand corrected.

that qsl shown above from feb 17, 1984 was most likely from that night i was put on air. it was probably not in january around my birthday as i thought.

i looked on a calendar and the day/date match up.

heck, i'm going back 30 years trying to remember all this :shock: .

steve


Amazing... February 17, 1984 is the exact date of the postmark on the envelope! :D

-Steve


this is getting weird.

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 Post subject: Re: what happened to the Shortwave Band (5.0mc - 18.0mc)?
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You're telling me...

I don't know, but there seems to be some sort of link between us.

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