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 Post subject: Grandfather Clock radios?
PostPosted: Dec Fri 26, 2008 4:50 pm 
Silent Key

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What were the model #s of various GF clock radios. I have Crosley 124 (1932) and Philco 70. Thanks


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PostPosted: Dec Fri 26, 2008 7:19 pm 
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GFC radios were a 2-year fad, 1931-32. There were lots of different brands. Ones I have run across are listed below with model numbers:

All American Mohawk- S-62
Atlantic Radio- 31AC
Colonial- 41C
Crosley- 59 "Oracle"
" - 124M "Playtime"
" - 141 "Playtime, Jr."
Elgin Radio & TV- "Air Column"
Fink Industries- 7
Gen. Elect.- H91
" " - H91R
" " - K82
Herbert Horn - 15M
Majestic - 156
" - 210
" - 254
Montgomery Ward - 62-2956
Ottowa Furniture (Holland MI)
Philco - 470
Pioneer Radio Corp.
Revere Radio Corp. (Ashland OH) - 79
Silvertone - 1155
" - 1391
" - 1485
Simplex (Sandusky OH)
Steinite - GF
Story & Clark - C108
United Engine Co. (Lansing MI) - Colonial
Virginia Lincoln Furniture Co. - 2510
Westinghouse - WR8
" - WR12
" - WR15

Clock cases were also made to house Atwater Kent chassis, but I don't know who made them.

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 Post subject: GF radios
PostPosted: Dec Fri 26, 2008 7:52 pm 
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Wow! I did not know there were that many. Thanks.


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Karl Manthei of Fairfield, CA probably has the best grandfather clock radio knowledge out there. I haven't spoken to Karl is a number of years, but he had cataloged and collected quite a few of these.

- Kent


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the Atwater Kent 84 came in a GFC cabinet too. There are many GFC radios that were cabinets you could buy and slip your chassis and speaker into them... so, there is really no way to know all of them you might find. The GFC radio trend was fairly short... 1930-1933 is my guess.
Mark Oppat
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Here's a recent thread on the Philco GFC.
I just got one a couple of weeks ago.

http://www.antiqueradios.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=100907&highlight=

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I have restored many of the GFCs on the list. I like the Majestic 156-a classic cabinet with a 5-tube, light-weight chassis. I have one in the living room. The other 2 Majestics are dogs with 50 lb chassis encased in armor plate with lots of tar & pot metal.

The most interesting was the Story & Clark. It had a double-deck chassis. Audio & power on top and the RF on the bottom. Chassis were stacked using angle posts at each corner.

Story & Clark made pianos, not radios. I have often wondered who made the chassis. Never seen another like it.

I have also restored a Bulova M701 cathedral with clock from 1932. It was interesting because it was the only radio made with the Bulova name before the 1950s when they came out with lots of plastic clock radios.

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 Post subject: AK GFC radio
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A model 82 GFC radio sold on ebay for around $1550. Model 82 I think. It looked really nice. Is this one of the most expensive models? Thanks.


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I just picked-up a Crosley 124 "Playtime" today (it is in December finds).

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 Post subject: Re: AK GFC radio
PostPosted: Dec Tue 30, 2008 4:37 am 
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deltysdal wrote:
A model 82 GFC radio sold on ebay for around $1550. Model 82 I think. It looked really nice. Is this one of the most expensive models? Thanks.


I have seen some of the GE and Westinghouse Remote sets, when all intact and restored, going for more than $1500.


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The Crosley 124 has an unusual untuned second IF transformer. On one that I worked on, that transformer had opened up; not having any 175khz units on hand, I replaced it with a standard 262khz transformer, with the primary and secondary windings paralelled with 68 pf capacitors so they would resonate at 175! Interestingly, the schematic in Rider's shows both IF transformers with trimmers.

It sure wasn't original, but the owner didn't mind; at least I got it playing again.

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Thanks Tim, that is an excellent tip!

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Hi,
I have been collecting GFCs for about 20 years, and have 30 or so. None of the really rare ones. I talked with Karl years ago and traded 1 or 2 clocks with him. I have not talked with him in a long time and wonder if he is still collecting.

I had a General Motors, and 3 or 4 local furniture company ones with unnamed chassis. I assume there are 50+ versions of these local furniture company clocks out there. That is one of the reasons this is a fun radio to collect.

Bulova made one, same radio and clock as in the tombstone. I know where 1 is, but have not been able to get it.

For the Crosley 124 Playtime, although it is probably the most common one, there are at least 4 versions of this. One has the 127 chassis with the tuning meter, 1 and 2 speaker versions, variations on the clock face etc.

It is always nice when you can find the original spin clock movement. Unfortunately, in most of these the clock has been replaced.

If anyone has the Philco 470 with the original clock, I had the worm gear that always wore out reproduced and still have a few if someone needs one.

The GE Longfellow is a beautiful clock with a very reliable clock movement. I have a copy of the original owner's manual for this if someone wants a copy.

-Barry


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Barry,

If I am every in your area, it sure would be nice to see your collection.

I had previously determined that versions of the Crosley later than the one I have came with a plainer clock face.

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Berry it would be nice to share a collection like that with the rest of the member of the ARF. How bout some pictures?
Denny Graham
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OK, I got a question for you all. First of all, most all of us know what a grandfather clock is.

But how did they ever come around to be named a grandfather clock! What has grandfather have to do with it? Was there ever a grandmother clock?

Believe me, I have been asked this same question in the past and have been unable to answer it. We used to have an old retired clocksmith who proudly would exhibit some of his clock restorations at the local county fair and some of those were real beauties. And if you think that some vintage radio sets are expensive, take a look into some of those perfect clock restorations and see what they are worth. Every one of his had four and five digit price tags on them, if people were interested in buying them.

I asked him about the grandfather clock thing once and even he could not give me a good answer.
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Well, that is the best explanation I have heard yet, so I will go with it. Thanks.
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Here's the Johnny Cash version of the song. Probably will sound pretty good playing through mine.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Txsa97oIi_c

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Steve Johnson wrote:
Here's the Johnny Cash version of the song. Probably will sound pretty good playing through mine.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Txsa97oIi_c


Hi Steve,

Just in case you didn't notice the PM, I sent you some hi-res images of the grille cloth on my Philco Grandfather clock radio to help you with replacing yours.

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