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 Post subject: Philco 53-1350-121schematic
PostPosted: Nov Wed 02, 2005 7:03 am 
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Does anyone have a schematic for the above receiver/record player. It's not listed in any of my sources.<BR>Thanks;<BR>Dan<P>------------------<BR>


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 Post subject: Philco 53-1350-121schematic
PostPosted: Nov Wed 02, 2005 7:17 am 
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Its in Beitmans. I'll email a copy.<P>-Bill<P>------------------<BR><BR><A HREF="http://www.sparkbench.com/homebrew/homebrew.html" TARGET=_blank>The Sparkbench</A>


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 Post subject: Philco 53-1350-121schematic
PostPosted: Nov Wed 02, 2005 11:19 am 
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Got it;<BR>Thanks Ex<P>------------------<BR>


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 Post subject: Re: Philco 53-1350-121schematic
PostPosted: Aug Wed 28, 2013 3:44 pm 
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I also just found one of these and would like to get ahold of a schematic.
Ron



Got it! Thanks.


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 Post subject: Re: Philco 53-1350-121schematic
PostPosted: Dec Sat 12, 2015 2:11 am 
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OK guys. Reviving this request once more. Hoping one of you guys can send me what you have on the 53-1350.

Also wondering if any of you can identify exactly what these caps are. This is my first Philco and I have never seen this type of arrangement.

I do have SAMS #0203-7n but it does not list that component as one of the parts as far as I can tell.

Thanks in advance,

Sean (HungryFreaks@gmail.com)

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 Post subject: Re: Philco 53-1350-121schematic
PostPosted: Dec Sat 12, 2015 2:55 am 
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I believe that model is a radio-phono built into a drop-leaf table. I have a similar model B1750 (sometimes known as model 53-1750).

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I think those oil-filled caps that you show were added by someone. My radio doesn't have them. Where do they connect in the chassis?

Dave


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 Post subject: Re: Philco 53-1350-121schematic
PostPosted: Dec Sat 12, 2015 7:15 pm 
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Hi Dave,

It is a different model at least cosmetically and is a tabletop bakelite unit with AM and "Special Services" band.
Here are a few photos of this model:

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It is covered in the same SAMS (0203-7n) as the model you posted but there are some notes about certain parts being in just one model or the other.

In the first photo I posted you can see the capacitors in their mounting spot on the chassis. They are mounted on a set of clips against the back wall of the unit. I thought maybe they were located as far from the tuning or amplifier sections perhaps to avoid some kind of interference.
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On the earlier photo that showed the writing on the side of the item you can see the clips that were holding it in place. I just placed it on top of the clips to photograph. Here is an unobstructed view:
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 Post subject: Re: Philco 53-1350-121schematic
PostPosted: Dec Sat 12, 2015 7:33 pm 
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Hi Sean,
I have never owned or serviced a Philco 53-1350. But I do have an original Philco Service bulletin for it (#PR-2422) and I took a look at both the schematic and parts list. These caps do not appear there and I am going to have to agree with Dave on this; I suspect these are not original and were added by someone at some point for reasons unknown to me. The fact that they are oil-filled caps with 600v rating would seem to confirm this. I would also repeat Dave's question: just where do they connect in the circuit?

EDIT: Sean, you apparently already have the SAMS Photofact for the 53-1350 which should be adequate. But if you also want a copy of the genuine Philco Service bulletin for it (#PR-2422) I suggest you contact Chuck Schwark:
http://www.philcorepairbench.com/schematics.htm
I realize that Chuck only advertises genuine Philco service data for models through 1947, but I know for a fact that he has a lot of later ones since I myself have sent him several original copies in the past. But since he is not complete on Philco data past 1947 that is the reason he does not advertise it.
I am sure Chuck can probably help you, but if not let me know via PM and I could send you a Xerox copy via USMail. But try Chuck first.

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 Post subject: Re: Philco 53-1350-121schematic
PostPosted: Dec Sat 12, 2015 8:11 pm 
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Hi Guys,

I wanted to thank both of you for your feedback so far. I have decided to start a new thread for this issue and will post photo's which hopefully will show it's place in the circuit. It may take me a few hours to locate the proper photos but I do appreciate all of your feedback.

That post can be located here:
viewtopic.php?f=6&t=289942

Poston, I will check out that resource you suggest, thanks. What I really have not been able to find is service info for the turntable within and it is definitely different than the ones I have serviced in the past. According to what I could find it is an M24. Does the Philco service bulletin also contain the turntable service info? If I am unsuccessful in locating it I may take you up on your offer of a xerox copy.

Thanks again and I will post the other photos in the next 24 hours I hope.


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 Post subject: Re: Philco 53-1350-121schematic
PostPosted: Dec Sat 12, 2015 8:23 pm 
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HungryFreaks wrote:
Poston, I will check out that resource you suggest, thanks. What I really have not been able to find is service info for the turntable within and it is definitely different than the ones I have serviced in the past. According to what I could find it is an M24. Does the Philco service bulletin also contain the turntable service info?

Sean,
No, the Philco M-24 record changer is covered by another Philco Service bulletin (#PR-2178). Chuck Schwark should also have that one. Chuck is a great guy to deal with; his Philco Service bulletin copies are of excellent quality, and if there were any later updates published by Philco he will also include them with your order.

In the meantime we will watch your new thread; I think it was wise to start a new topic.

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 Post subject: Re: Philco 53-1350-121schematic
PostPosted: Dec Sat 12, 2015 10:25 pm 
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It was this link that led me to believe that your radio was in a drop leaf table.

http://www.radiomuseum.org/r/philco_cha ... _1750.html

Dave


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