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Dave Slusarczyk
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Post subject: Uncommon AK model 20 with phono. Posted: May Sat 28, 2022 1:34 am |
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atwaterkent1
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Post subject: Re: Uncommon AK model 20 with phono. Posted: May Sat 28, 2022 1:36 am |
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Dave Slusarczyk
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Post subject: Re: Uncommon AK model 20 with phono. Posted: May Sat 28, 2022 1:42 am |
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atwaterkent1 wrote: Very cool pick-up Dave. Looks to be in really great shape. It is in great shape!! It is an actual AK model set! It is a model 1100 I beleive! Not many were sold in 1925/26. I saw it in person a couple of years back. I am going in a few weeks to pick it up. It is a long drive!
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Chas
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Post subject: Re: Uncommon AK model 20 with phono. Posted: May Sat 28, 2022 1:59 am |
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Looks like a set of QRS tubes 
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Dave Slusarczyk
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Post subject: Re: Uncommon AK model 20 with phono. Posted: May Sat 28, 2022 2:02 am |
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atwaterkentsrus
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Post subject: Re: Uncommon AK model 20 with phono. Posted: May Sat 28, 2022 4:18 am |
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Dave Slusarczyk wrote: atwaterkent1 wrote: Very cool pick-up Dave. Looks to be in really great shape. It is in great shape!! It is an actual AK model set! It is a model 1100 I beleive! Not many were sold in 1925/26. I saw it in person a couple of years back. I am going in a few weeks to pick it up. It is a long drive! Dave, This is a Pooley 1300 cabinet. Most I have seen just had the wood horn in the top with a driver. I do know Pooley made this model with a turntable, but this is the first one I've actually seen with the turntable. When you get it, I would be interested in knowing where the driver and horn is for the AK 20C. Also where does the sound from the turntable go. Is it strictly mechanical like a Victrola and the sound just goes into some type of a wood horn to spread the sound. I doubt the sound actually goes through the AK20 and is amplified. I would really like to know.
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Dave Slusarczyk
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Post subject: Re: Uncommon AK model 20 with phono. Posted: May Sat 28, 2022 4:34 am |
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atwaterkentsrus wrote: Dave Slusarczyk wrote: atwaterkent1 wrote: Very cool pick-up Dave. Looks to be in really great shape. It is in great shape!! It is an actual AK model set! It is a model 1100 I beleive! Not many were sold in 1925/26. I saw it in person a couple of years back. I am going in a few weeks to pick it up. It is a long drive! Dave, This is a Pooley 1300 cabinet. Most I have seen just had the wood horn in the top with a driver. I do know Pooley made this model with a turntable, but this is the first one I've actually seen with the turntable. When you get it, I would be interested in knowing where the driver and horn is for the AK 20C. Also where does the sound from the turntable go. Is it strictly mechanical like a Victrola and the sound just goes into some type of a wood horn to spread the sound. I doubt the sound actually goes through the AK20 and is amplified. I would really like to know. You are correct ! It is a 1300 afterall!! It appears the opening where the phonograph sits is the opening of the bell. It is my understanding there is some sort of mechanical lever to select between radio_phono. Yes, I will know much more when it is in my possession! 
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atwaterkentsrus
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Post subject: Re: Uncommon AK model 20 with phono. Posted: May Sat 28, 2022 4:48 am |
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Dave, Thanks for all the pictures. It shows this to be a Pooley 1500 cabinet. That's why I haven't seen one like it. All the ones I've see that look like it were 1300 cabinets. Most of my Pooley catalogs show the 1300, but I have none that show the 1500 to compare it to. Looks like the 1300 and 1500 used the same cabinet, with the phono being the difference for the 1500. I will hunt for literature showing the 1500.
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Dave Slusarczyk
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Post subject: Re: Uncommon AK model 20 with phono. Posted: May Sat 28, 2022 4:53 am |
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Here are a couple pictures from Bob Prochko.
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atwaterkentsrus
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Post subject: Re: Uncommon AK model 20 with phono. Posted: May Sat 28, 2022 4:54 am |
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Dave, I knew I had seen it somewhere in my pictures.
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Dave Slusarczyk
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Post subject: Re: Uncommon AK model 20 with phono. Posted: May Sat 28, 2022 4:58 am |
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Dave Slusarczyk
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Post subject: Re: Uncommon AK model 20 with phono. Posted: May Sat 28, 2022 5:03 am |
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zenith82
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Post subject: Re: Uncommon AK model 20 with phono. Posted: May Sat 28, 2022 11:03 am |
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Just a guess, but it may operate similar to how heaters did in some older Jeeps and other vehicles with the cable controls. Basically the cable is attached to a flat plate that either allows warm air into the cabin when opened, or when closed diverts it outside. Is the phonograph motor spring or electric? If the former, it's probably a Saal two spring motor that was used in Pooley branded phonographs from about 1920 onward. Silvertone phonographs of that era used that motor as well.
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wazz
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Post subject: Re: Uncommon AK model 20 with phono. Posted: May Sat 28, 2022 12:12 pm |
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Under what sort of circumstances are things like that divested of the museum collection?
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brnhornet52
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Post subject: Re: Uncommon AK model 20 with phono. Posted: May Sat 28, 2022 1:36 pm |
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Very nice, Dave. Looks like you found a winner.
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processhead
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Post subject: Re: Uncommon AK model 20 with phono. Posted: May Sat 28, 2022 2:54 pm |
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Agree, that is very nice, Dave. So is the phonograph strictly an acoustic machine, or does it have EM pickup that uses the radio's audio circuitry?
Edit: Ok after looking at the tonearm of the phono again it would appear to be an all-acoustic machine.
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Dave Slusarczyk
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Post subject: Re: Uncommon AK model 20 with phono. Posted: May Sat 28, 2022 3:39 pm |
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wazz wrote: Under what sort of circumstances are things like that divested of the museum collection? It is my understanding the HFM auctioned off a bunch of items around 1995. I purchased from the man who purchased it from the museum.
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Arran
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Post subject: Re: Uncommon AK model 20 with phono. Posted: May Sun 29, 2022 12:30 am |
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wazz wrote: Under what sort of circumstances are things like that divested of the museum collection? When they end up with historically ignorant management that want to "Take the museum in a different direction".
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Post subject: Re: Uncommon AK model 20 with phono. Posted: May Sun 29, 2022 12:54 am |
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Dave, It is absolutely a beautiful set! I was fortunate to help load it and move it around. I have a short video of it I would like to share, but nowhere to properly host it. As for the Henry Ford Museum auction back in 1995? Here is the report on it in Antique Radio Classified. https://worldradiohistory.com/Archive-A ... 995-11.pdfhttps://worldradiohistory.com/Archive-A ... 995-12.pdfI was there and bought a Zenith model 92 console for $300, which is listed in the second issue. It was quite an auction. -Steve
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Dave Slusarczyk
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Post subject: Re: Uncommon AK model 20 with phono. Posted: May Sun 29, 2022 5:07 am |
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azenithnut wrote: Dave, It is absolutely a beautiful set! I was fortunate to help load it and move it around. I have a short video of it I would like to share, but nowhere to properly host it. As for the Henry Ford Museum auction back in 1995? Here is the report on it in Antique Radio Classified. https://worldradiohistory.com/Archive-A ... 995-11.pdfhttps://worldradiohistory.com/Archive-A ... 995-12.pdfI was there and bought a Zenith model 92 console for $300, which is listed in the second issue. It was quite an auction. Thanks for saving/sharing the info!! -Steve Wonderful!! Thank you for your help!! I will be there in two weeks to pick it up! Glad to hear the phono was operable! I bet that was one heck of an auction!!
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