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 Post subject: Re: Roaring 20s Superhets
PostPosted: Mar Thu 04, 2021 10:21 pm 
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Here’s my two-layer Wall of Superhets, which includes a Best, an Infradyne, an Ultradyne, a homebrew, and quite possibly the only “Gabriola 8” in existence.

(You can see a lot more shots of the Infradyne, which is super cool, on Duane’s site. Thanks Duane for hosting them.)

Yes, I know it’s awful that they aren’t displayed properly, nor set up for operation...yet. But at least they’re all in a safe place and in the restoration queue. Baby steps.


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 Post subject: Re: Roaring 20s Superhets
PostPosted: Mar Fri 05, 2021 1:55 am 
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My gosh! I love your Infradyne!

The Marco dials and controls really set it off!

Reminds me of my Laurence M Cockaday LC-27. :D

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 Post subject: Re: Roaring 20s Superhets
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Nice variety of early superhets you have there. Despite that some of them may be incomplete, it would be nice if more photos were posted of them, mainly good shots of their innards to tantalize the technologically minded here on this ever so ongoing thread.

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 Post subject: Re: Roaring 20s Superhets
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I’ll post more details of each, here, some other time. They are all complete - the homebrew has a hole for an extra master rheostat that seems to have been an option for that kit, but there’s no evidence one was ever installed.


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 Post subject: Re: Roaring 20s Superhets
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It is interesting how things change. Back in the day (about 20-30 years ago) you couldn’t give these superheat away. Ow they are hot items.

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 Post subject: Re: Roaring 20s Superhets
PostPosted: Mar Fri 05, 2021 2:42 pm 
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Collecting 1920's superhets is nothing new. I started collecting them in 1993 and they were difficult to find besides the Remlers, Ultradynes and Victoreens. There has been a small group of dedicated collectors going back many decades. Collectors that come to mind are the late John Caperton and Dale Davenport, Don Patterson, and Rick Ammon to name a few.

I have never recalled a time when you could not give a Leutz Receiver away. So while the lesser receivers were of little interest, the quality radios were. What I have little to no interest in are the RCA superhets of the 20's. They are common and factory built. My interest are in the supers that were built in small numbers, most often from a kit, either on a kitchen table or assembled by a custom shop.

This is my favorite thread on the forum. Happy to see it is still alive and well.

Rick Ammon says hello. I talk with him often and keep him up to date on the happenings.

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 Post subject: Re: Roaring 20s Superhets
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I was born in 1968. In 2018, I bought a Silver Marshall Improved Shielded Laboratory Receiver from Morphy Auctions that was in the estate of Ron Frisbee. When the radio arrived, there was a note in it that indicated Ron had bought it from John Caperton, and John had originally bought it from Lauren Peckham in 1968. So it has been in the hands of collectors longer than I've been alive!

I've managed to add a couple new supers to my collection this year. I really need to get some photos into this thread.

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 Post subject: Re: Roaring 20s Superhets
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I have a radio from the Caperton collection, but its a Pilot Screen Grid kit set. It had an envelope with Caperton's return address on it, and documentation inside. One of my Leutz Model C's had belonged to Duane long ago, and I believe he bought it from an old time collector, maybe Morgan McMahon? Duane sold it, and then the trail goes cold until I got it for $80 at a MAARC radio show. It was not in very good condition, but it was complete.

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 Post subject: Re: Roaring 20s Superhets
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Visited Mr Caperton several times in the 80s, one of my Scott superhets came from him. He had an amazing collection if you didn't mind climbing 3 flights of stairs to see it all!

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 Post subject: Re: Roaring 20s Superhets
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David Willenborg wrote:
One of my Leutz Model C's had belonged to Duane long ago, and I believe he bought it from an old time collector, maybe Morgan McMahon? Duane sold it, and then the trail goes cold until I got it for $80 at a MAARC radio show.


I purchased that Leutz for $500 from Jim Clark in 1985. I think I sold it for around $250 sometime around 1990. Leutz superhets have been highly collectable as long as I remember but I lost money on it and so did other people. David got a great buy at $80.

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 Post subject: Re: Roaring 20s Superhets
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David Willenborg wrote:

Rick Ammon says hello. I talk with him often and keep him up to date on the happenings.

David
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Is Rich doing OK? I haven't heard from or about him in a while, since
his great super het web page dissapeared.
What happened to his plans for the super het book?

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 Post subject: Re: Roaring 20s Superhets
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Ron,

No, Rick is not doing ok. He is not mobile, and mostly confined to a bed. I hope to visited him this year. He and I have had discussions regarding his book and a path forward. He is in a difficult situation.

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 Post subject: Re: Roaring 20s Superhets
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I'm sorry to this, his web page was a great start on the book.
Books a tough, I've been working on mine for about 20 years.

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 Post subject: Re: Roaring 20s Superhets
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Here is a kit radio I bought from the Estes auction late January. It uses a Rauland-All American transformer lineup.

It's shown on Russ Webb's superhet page as a "Rauland Music Room Super." Here it has a generic name (DeLuxe 8-Tube Superhet) and is credited to Joseph Calcaterra. I'm not sure what to call it.

It's unfinished. One of the tuning capacitors was damaged in transit. It has an open winding or 2 in the transformers. Viewed from the bottom, there are many extra holes drilled in the panel. There are no holes in the cabinet for routing battery wires. Overall, I think it's a recent build from an original unbuilt kit. But whether it was built in the 1990s or the 2010s, I have no idea.

I took lots of photos... Sorry some are not the best quality.


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 Post subject: Re: Roaring 20s Superhets
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Some more pics of the Rauland-All American Super...


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 Post subject: Re: Roaring 20s Superhets
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One of the things I really like about it, is that it came with original drawings for assembly.

This, together with so many of the components matching the specs and the cabinet being undrilled, is what makes me think it was an unbuilt kit.


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 Post subject: Re: Roaring 20s Superhets
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palegreenthumb wrote:
Here is a kit radio I bought from the Estes auction late January. It uses a Rauland-All American transformer lineup.

It's shown on Russ Webb's superhet page as a "Rauland Music Room Super." Here it has a generic name (DeLuxe 8-Tube Superhet) and is credited to Joseph Calcaterra. I'm not sure what to call it.

It's unfinished. One of the tuning capacitors was damaged in transit. It has an open winding or 2 in the transformers. Viewed from the bottom, there are many extra holes drilled in the panel. There are no holes in the cabinet for routing battery wires. Overall, I think it's a recent build from an original unbuilt kit. But whether it was built in the 1990s or the 2010s, I have no idea.

I took lots of photos... Sorry some are not the best quality.


The Phillips head screws in the piano hinge would tend to indicate that the cabinet was built more recently, they didn't exist prior to the 1930sm and the appear to be gold/brass coloured. It was rather a sloppy build in that respect, I never will understand why anyone would reach for that rubbish design of screw, the finish on the wood isn't too jot either.
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 Post subject: Re: Roaring 20s Superhets
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Thanks for sharing all of this information! It’s a beautiful radio.


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 Post subject: Re: Roaring 20s Superhets
PostPosted: Mar Sun 07, 2021 3:09 pm 
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Thank you for sharing your superhet with us. You questioned what to call it, and I would call it a Rauland Superhet, or a Rauland All-American Superhet. Most collectors identify the make by the IF's but with everything in life there are some exceptions. These exceptions are based in a deeper understanding of the history of some of the companies that made these kit supers. Leutz/EIS is my favorite example of an exception to the rule.

Your radio does have its fair share of issues but I do think it started life in the mid 20's as a Rauland Superhet. The filth and corrosion seems uniform over the majority of the chassis, and components. Yes, there is a mix of old and more modern hardware, modern wiring, and battery holders installed under the chassis. I think your radio was modified by a collector, and he/she never finished the project. More 20's superhet kit radios are found without a cabinet and it is not surprising to see it in a cabinet that is not original to the chassis. It may have never had a cabinet when it was constructed, or it may have been installed in an aftermarket console cabinet, later removed, and the cabinet disposed of.

It is also possible that this kit superhet was never completed by the original builder. Maybe once they mounted all of the components they were not happy. There were to many mistakes, extra holes in the front panel and chassis board, and they just put it away on a shelf in the basement, and there it sat forgotten.

Your radio is a good one to tear down and rebuild, returning it to its original glory. Others may disagree, but from my vantage point it looks like it is not a modern build, but a modern mutilation. As we often see stated here, its your radio, do as you wish to it. That is what happened here, and the addition of modern battery holders was thought to be a quality restoration to the former owner.

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That is an interesting superhet, Rodney!
I wonder what plastic that insulator is made of? Looks very brittle.
Is that all that is broken on it? EDIT: Ahh, I see part of the stator mounting is broken too.

I agree the cabinet is a recent build, but the important part is the radio :D

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