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 Post subject: Morse Electrophonic Total Music System
PostPosted: Apr Wed 07, 2021 2:54 am 
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Picked up this for nothing and trying to put humpty Dumpty together again. I am in Toronto Canada Total newbie getting into record collecting and looking to put in garage. here is a stock pic plus the actual the model tags and looking for a starting point and to get walk through on checking it out and getting some documents/manuals. Haven't really tested it and started taking it apart and everything seems to move and no seized items. Think I will need a new turntable cartridge or might swap out a basic turntable if really expensive. Has an 8 track and radio and from what I've read it looks like a bargain basement novelty but during COVID got the time so figured why not. Thanks


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 Post subject: Re: Morse Electrophonic Total Music System
PostPosted: Apr Wed 07, 2021 4:05 pm 
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The bad news is that you're right, this is bottom of the barrel.

That being said, this is what you'll need to do.

Use Deoxit Fader on the controls to clean them up. You got lucky with the changer, but it's on borrowed time and you'll need to disassemble, clean out the old grease, and relubricate. You can get a needle from Gary at thevoiceofmusic.com

If the 8 track belt is currently in good shape, then don't worry about it, but clean the 8 track heads and capstan with alcohol if you are planning on using it. You might have put a drop of oil on the capstan bearing at the very bottom if it's running stiff. You might have to do the same to the motor.


If I recall correctly, the lights in the bottom were the C7 ones that blink, you can order those from 1000bulbs.com

If the unit is mostly operational now, with this basic maintenance, you should be good.


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 Post subject: Re: Morse Electrophonic Total Music System
PostPosted: Apr Wed 07, 2021 4:42 pm 
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Not that you would, but don't turn the bass and volume all the way up. Smoke will come out, albeit briefly, then you'd have somewhat a chore on your hands. In the good old 60s I saw dozens of these fail that way.

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 Post subject: Re: Morse Electrophonic Total Music System
PostPosted: Apr Wed 07, 2021 6:17 pm 
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In the US Howard Sams published many (400+) Photofact service manuals for Morse/Electrophonic.
https://www.samswebsite.com/en/photofac ... h&s=Search
I am unable to decipher or locate your (Canadian) model numbers... :shock:

If you cannot wing-it without a schematic, lol
perhaps, speak with Dave Canton at justradios.com Scarborough, Ontario.
https://www.justradios.com/HiFischematics.html

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 Post subject: Re: Morse Electrophonic Total Music System
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SOP (standard operating procedure) is to replace all of the electrolytic capacitors as a first step.
viewtopic.php?p=3346034#p3346034

Modern day electrolytic capacitors have become so much smaller since the 1960s - 1970s
viewtopic.php?p=3353646#p3353646


scroll down...
Here are a few informative restoration videos from Paul Carlson.
Watch: viewtopic.php?p=3354927#p3354927

How to replace deteriorated foam rubber pressure strips in 8-track tape cartridges.
Watch: viewtopic.php?p=3287399#p3287399

Post photos if you are unsure about anything. There are no dumb questions around these parts.


Welcome aboard... :)
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 Post subject: Re: Morse Electrophonic Total Music System
PostPosted: Apr Wed 07, 2021 10:26 pm 
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There is one of these sitting in my mother in law’s house. Had not been powered on in years. I am hoping it will be dumped when the house sells.

Point being, look for Sams set 1646 folder 3. You should find the Morse Electrophonic 35 in there. I think that ought to be it for the electronics. The tape and record player, somewhere else if at all.


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 Post subject: Re: Morse Electrophonic Total Music System
PostPosted: Apr Wed 07, 2021 10:42 pm 
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The breakdown of the chassis numbers are easier seen here.
Farther down the page, Bill J. says that the Tape player can be found in Photofact Set-1621 Folder-3 also published in 1977

viewtopic.php?p=2635459#p2635459


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Cheese whiz, all you old guys, I think it is groovy. :P

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 Post subject: Re: Morse Electrophonic Total Music System
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Yep, I saw this, and had the sudden urge to put on some polyester double knit......


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This is a tough crowd. It's not much wonder people post on here once then we never hear from them again. Just sayin'........

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 Post subject: Re: Morse Electrophonic Total Music System
PostPosted: Apr Fri 09, 2021 12:04 am 
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People post their questions here and get honest answers, links to manuals and heads up warnings, all pretty realistic I'd say.

My advice would be to shop for a higher quality amp, speakers and turntable to install in that cabinet.
Meanwhile, no harm in tinkering with what is there. Enjoy the challenges.

The 8-track player will need to be given a good cleaning, Use the "search' feature top of every page here for more info, past threads about Morse units and 8-track player service.

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