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Merrill Bancroft
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Thanks David.
Robert Lozier
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Thanks to ARF folks, I did get the knob I needed... FINALLY it is ready for exhibition...
Robert
phlogiston,

The Erla Superflex with the original kit box is great. The box shows the silver plated tuning dials.
I have one in great shape EXCEPT FOR ONE STINKING SILVER DIAL! Have been looking for that one dial for about ten years. :( :( :( I have and have seen a good number with really bad silver. Just have not figured a way to restore one. I wish Roland Matson was still around to do his magic. (He did the first class Kennedy and Radiola Sr. silver dials.)

Robert
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Robert Lozier,
PM me a mailing address. I have a few ERLA items in storage. It will take some time to locate them. If I remember right most of the dial knobs ar in the same shape as yours but IF I find one in better shape I'll send it.
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I can nickel plate them. For that matter I could silver plate them but I would have to buy the silver.

I also have the 3 tube reflex. It also has different dials. I wonder what they did with the originals, or whether the kits had various dials?
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Robert Lozier
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I nickel plate and do immersion silver deposition but these dials are screen or photo resist for the markings. The dial is made so that I don't see a nondestructive way to remove the Bakelite knob so you can just work with the flat skirt. :(

Robert
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[quote="sansfil"]Here are images of the Marconi 103 and 107A crystal sets. Note the closer spacing between the rotary variable condensers when compared to Alans Marconi 107 modified valve set.

Rich[/quote]Today I will be taking delivery of a Marconi of America 107A that I believe was modified from a 107 (I believe) by Marconi's west coast office about 1915. With all the information in this thread about the 103, Fleming, 107, and 107A etc. I must confess a bit of confusion.

What is the group's opinion of which set this is? Value?

ADVthanksANCE

Larry
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Merrill Bancroft
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This is a Peck Superfone Type A1 from 1922. Gordon V. Peck was amateur operator 2HC with an address at 68 Woodruff Ave. in Brooklyn. The Peck Radio Corporation was
incorporated at 23 Flatbush Ave in Brooklyn with assets of $7500. This may be the only radio the company ever produced. In the "Amateur Radio" article from 1924 Peck is extoling attributes of the two year old receiver for what purpose I can't imagine as it was obsolete by then. Peck also shows up later in a publication describing the first attempt to get signals across the Atlantic Ocean.

Thanks to whoever was able to rejuvenate this topic and photos.
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Irving 5 tube TRF. The left hand panel I made as a temporary replacement as it was missing.
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Very nice Groundhog! What's your secret to the front panal or did it come in that good of shape?

Len
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There are a few blemishes that do not show in the photo. But all I did was clean it. The chassis was a mess. All wires cut. All coils loose and flopping around. One coil had no wire on it at all. I got it working, then it started to squeal and after that I got nothing. Put it away for the future.
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soidar905 wrote:I was told by the previous owner and another informed source that this is a Hartman radio made in Mansfield Ohio. Does anyone have any info on this or similar model?
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That's a Hatfield radio which was made by the Hatfield Electric Company of Indianapolis, Indiana.

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Your set is missing some of the interior walls that make up the headphone storage compartment and the various panels of the radio are placed in the wrong places. I think I know who you got that from. The front feet are original but the original rear feet, that were of the same style, are missing and have been replaced by a pair of straight pieces of wood. If you ever decide you'd like to sell that set or trade for it, I'd be very interested in it being an Indiana made radio.
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Merrill Bancroft
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I had mentioned this pair on another thread but it really belongs here.
Here is a very rare set made by Jones Radio in Baltimore in 1922-23.
I know very little about it or the company but there are a few early ads in a 1922 issue of "The Radio Dealer"
There is another amplifier known.
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Merrill Bancroft
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Anyone know any thing about this one? This was a recent acquisition.
Underneath the cement blob on the top of the panel it says Bay State Radio Company.
I'm guessing Massachusetts made.
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I just acquired this rare set that probably qualifies as obscure. A Precision ACE "Double Decker" consisting of the TRU Concert Receptor and the ACE AV2 Two-Stage Audio Amplifier. This "Double Decker" set came out after Crosley had bought the Precision Equipment Company to acquire the Armstrong Regenerative patent. Crosley had excess unsold Precision inventory on hand to get rid of and I think this set was an attempt to clear some of the excess out.
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The TRU and AV2 were advertised at a discounted price in the April, 1923 Radio Broadcast and Popular Radio magazines. Apparently the AV2 on this set was redesigned with more of a "Crosley" look with the chrome tube viewing holes instead of the small holes of the earlier version in the catalog cut. ACE tube sockets and audio transformers were still used. I know from period advertising that Precision had quite an inventory of the TRU sets in stock when Crosley took over. The ACE TRU must have been really hard to sell even at the $35 discounted price tag when Crosley was, in the same advertisement, selling the comparable Crosley V for a $20 price tag.
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Merrill Bancroft
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Alan:
Could we seer a couple interior views of your TRU. Mine is in slight disarray.
Merrill
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Merrill Bancroft wrote:Alan:
Could we seer a couple interior views of your TRU. Mine is in slight disarray.
Merrill
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OK Merrill,
Here is a "first" for W-K Electric Co. Oriole brand... The Model 5... A TRF with regeneration on the RF tube, a grid leak detector and two stages of audio. Works fairly well.
Right now the Wisconsin boys don't seem to have one in their neck of the woods..

I got this going using one of the solid state transformer substitutes. The original open audio is where it has always been and it is just about impossible to see the added board that makes it work.

Will be in the AWA OEC... I plan to be there even with a torn rotator cuff...

Robert
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Alan,

The Ace TRU and amp are amazing. They aren't pristine originals, are they?
Geez, I collect '20s Crosleys, but obscure to me is a Crosley Super Model VI :(

Thanks,
Dale
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DaleMidori wrote:I collect '20s Crosleys,
Dale

Dale, I wonder if you can help me?
I have a pretty nice Ace 3B that was for some reason missing
it's top hinges. Do you happen to have a parts set with a pair
of hinges?
I have searched and searched and no modern hinges that I can
find match the size and hole spacing of the Ace 3B.

You can see a photo of it in the cleaning process on my "Treatment"
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It cleaned up pretty nice.

Thanks
73, Ron w4ron
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DaleMidori wrote:Alan,

The Ace TRU and amp are amazing. They aren't pristine originals, are they?
Geez, I collect '20s Crosleys, but obscure to me is a Crosley Super Model VI :(

Thanks,
Dale
Yes Dale, the ACE Double Decker is all original as AFAIK. The fragile pot metal ACE tube sockets aren't broken like most I have seen. In fact I need two ACE sockets for another Precision project I have.
Alan
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