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Author:  Prelius [ Apr Sat 24, 2010 5:35 pm ]
Post subject:  Please help ID a Silvertone console

Folks,
Need help identifying this beautiful Silvertone console. Apologies for a poor picture, I only had my phone with me to take a picture. The model number is faded to the point where I cannot make anything out.

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The tube layout is as follows:

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Thank you very much, Paul

Author:  FStephenMasek [ Apr Sat 24, 2010 6:49 pm ]
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The cabinet appears to be the 1934 Model 57FM1824 with 11 tubes, but the knob layout does not match that of teh radio in the photo on page 81 of Mark Stein's The Sears Silvertone Catalogs 1930 - 1942.

The tubes match those for the 57FM1824. Here is the schematic:

http://www.nostalgiaair.org/Resources/768/M0016768.htm

The knob layout looks more like that of the 1935 radios

Author:  Why Y [ Apr Sat 24, 2010 11:38 pm ]
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This is a model #1824 made in the year 1934.
In the Sears catalog, the photos of the radios weren’t always true as they were a drawing of the radio that may have been made before the actual radio was completed. This is why many of the pictures in the catalog aren’t exact to the real thing.



www.sfhobbies.com

Author:  Prelius [ Apr Sun 25, 2010 1:47 am ]
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Thank you very much!!! Just picked it up, what a beautiful radio! Once cleaned up and buffed, it will shine like a star. I hope it sound just as awesome (with four 45's it better)!!!
Thanks, Paul

Author:  FStephenMasek [ Apr Sun 25, 2010 3:37 am ]
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How much did it cost? It should indeed sound good. Does the cabinet need any refinishing or repair, or it as good as it seems from that cell phone photo?

Author:  Prelius [ Apr Sun 25, 2010 5:59 am ]
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I bought a lot of five radios: two consoles, a tombstone, a cathedral and a table radio, so it averaged $50 apiece.

The pictures don't do justice to Silvertone. The cabinet is in nearly perfect condition, with some minor scratches on top and two small chips at the bottom. Other than that it only needs a good cleaning and polishing.

The radio came with all the original sales tags still attached to it, as well as with 25' of copper antenna and two ceramic isolators. I wish I could turn it on, but the caps leaked, so it might be a while before I will hear it play :-(. I just need to be patient.

This is my first Silvertone, for some reason I've never paid much attention to the brand, but I might change my mind if this one sounds as good as it looks.

Thanks, Paul

Author:  Arran [ Apr Sun 25, 2010 6:08 am ]
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Prelius wrote:
Thank you very much!!! Just picked it up, what a beautiful radio! Once cleaned up and buffed, it will shine like a star. I hope it sound just as awesome (with four 45's it better)!!!
Thanks, Paul


Regarding the #45s, be careful about those. The set was supposed to take type 45As which are not the same as a UX245 or a #45, the 45A has a substantially lower current draw then the older tube. If you put a set of the older type 45s in there it can damage the filament winding on the power transformer. If I am not mistaken there is a Lafayette model that has a similar chassis that also uses a set of #45As.
Best Regards
Arran

Author:  y2k Bruce [ Apr Sun 25, 2010 1:05 pm ]
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My 14 tube Silvertone 1831 has a similar dial and knob placement and has 6 of the 45's: 2 drivers and 4 more in PPP. 2 speakers in mine BTW and HUGE volumn.

It originally came with the 45A's mentioned above but the seller I got it from recapped it and put in the 45's instead.

Author:  FStephenMasek [ Apr Sun 25, 2010 11:35 pm ]
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Arran wrote:
Regarding the #45s, be careful about those. The set was supposed to take type 45As which are not the same as a UX245 or a #45, the 45A has a substantially lower current draw then the older tube. Arran
I checked teh tube data sheet locator, and it show 1.5 amps of filament current for both the 45 and 45A. I also checked Bob at findatube.com and vacuumtubesinc and both do not list a type 45A for sale. What data source do you have, and do have any ideas on where 45A tubes could be purchased?

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