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 Post subject: Silvertone 7164 - 14 tube radio
PostPosted: Oct Sat 03, 2020 4:26 am 
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Hi all,

I picked up this really interesting Silvertone 7164 model this week:

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So far the only info I've found is from here:
- Ch. No.: 101.219
- Year: 10.19.1934
- Power: AC
- Tubes: 14 (3-78 41 2-37 75 6-45 5Z3)
- Bands: 4

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It appears to share the same 14-tube chassis with the Silvertone 1822 and 1831 - and the strange 6 x 45 tube output setup with dual speakers. Fortunately Nostalgia Air has the schematic from Rider's.

Overall the cabinet is in excellent shape. Missing one knob for the "wave change" (band switch?) control - and the brass embossed label originally behind it.

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The knob seems easy enough but I'll probably need to recreate the brass label.

Anybody else have a 7164 like this or one of its sibling 1822 or 1831 models? I'd love a close up photo of what that embossed label looks like if it's common to those sets.

-Nathan


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 Post subject: Re: Silvertone 7164 - 14 tube radio
PostPosted: Oct Sat 03, 2020 12:04 pm 
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Wow, beautiful find there Nathan! :D
Looks like that cabinet will clean up well with some TLC!

Colonial radio in Buffalo made these for Sears, as they did most of the radios for Sears at the time.

Great catch!
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 Post subject: Re: Silvertone 7164 - 14 tube radio
PostPosted: Oct Sat 03, 2020 4:54 pm 
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Nathan,

There was an 1822 or 1831 at the Shoreline swap meet maybe 3-4 years ago, recapped and the seller had it playing, powered by an inverter from his car. So someone around here has one.

Not that that helps you a lot, but there is at least one around. Maybe an item in the PSARA newsletter would find someone local.

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 Post subject: Re: Silvertone 7164 - 14 tube radio
PostPosted: Oct Sat 03, 2020 5:01 pm 
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Thanks for the tip Rodney! I'll try that too. :)


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 Post subject: Re: Silvertone 7164 - 14 tube radio
PostPosted: Oct Sat 03, 2020 7:09 pm 
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It looks like the knob and brass plate have recently been removed. Maybe you could do some back-trackin'
Maybe they were loose, or maybe someone "took" them... :shock:

Neat set Nathan.
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 Post subject: Re: Silvertone 7164 - 14 tube radio
PostPosted: Oct Sat 03, 2020 8:27 pm 
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The tube lineup looks very similar to the Silvertone 1828 I possess

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 Post subject: Re: Silvertone 7164 - 14 tube radio
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The 45A is uprated from the standard 45. Nice find!

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 Post subject: Re: Silvertone 7164 - 14 tube radio
PostPosted: Oct Sun 04, 2020 2:30 am 
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Thanks all!

Yes - this radio shows 45A tubes on the tube layout label - but came with all Silvertone 45s - at least AFAICT from a quick inspection. Thankfully those should be just fine based on Rodney's (palegreenthumb) notes in this previous thread:

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The 45A is an up-rated 45 built exclusively for Silvertone and shipped in a few of their high-end radios for about 1.5 years. A standard 45 has a max plate voltage of 275V, but the Silvertone 1918/A & 1968/A models run with 325V on the plates, which the 45A will handle.

The Silvertone 1822, 1824, 1825, 1830, and 1831 models were shipped with 45As from the factory, but didn't run the plate voltages as high, and regular 45s were an acceptable substitute in those radios.
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 Post subject: Re: Silvertone 7164 - 14 tube radio
PostPosted: Oct Sun 04, 2020 2:35 am 
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shawn1967 - your 1828 set does appear to be a similar design. Cool!

egg - Good thought. Actually the volume control brass plate is loose too. I took it off and it looks the same behind it (original adhesive paper backing?). According to the guy I bought it from (not a radio collector) he picked it up at an estate sale. He said wen he bought it he looked around for the knob when he bought it but couldn't find it.


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 Post subject: Re: Silvertone 7164 - 14 tube radio
PostPosted: Aug Sun 01, 2021 10:46 pm 
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So I responded to you when you messaged me on my forum including multiple detailed pictures of the part from my Silvertone model 1831 that indeed looks almost identical from 1836, I'm just posting these pictures for anyone else stumbling across this forum wondering what you needed.


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 Post subject: Re: Silvertone 7164 - 14 tube radio
PostPosted: Aug Sun 01, 2021 10:57 pm 
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By the way, this is what the model 1831 looks like. Chassis looks identical, only difference I see in the 7164 is the speaker bezel and grill cloth also I believe mine was made in 1936. This picture was taken during chassis restoration so it was out at the time. I do have both volume and band switch labels, the volume label was loose when I removed chassis, the band switch label since came loose from original adhesive making photographing in daylight possible.


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