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 Post subject: Re: 900 Mile Range Indoor TV Antenna
PostPosted: Sep Tue 03, 2019 5:47 am 
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i regularly had channel 2 from dallas on E skip (not tropo) in june when i lived in central va.

we lived out in the middle of nowhere on 207, caroline county, right between fredericksburg and richmond.

i used a tower and a big house sized beast of an antenna on top of the tower to pull in DC, richmond, hampton/norfolk, winchester, and NC stations.

when tropo was going, i could get philadelphia, baltimore, and a rare chance at NYC.

So about what were the distances? I put up a huge skyhook on the roof of our first house and could regularly get KEYT/3/Santa Barbara, and KTIE/63/Oxnard, 85 & 54 miles away.

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 Post subject: Re: 900 Mile Range Indoor TV Antenna
PostPosted: Sep Tue 03, 2019 8:54 pm 
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central va to eastern pa

central va to dallas

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 Post subject: Re: 900 Mile Range Indoor TV Antenna
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Dutch Rabbit wrote:
central va to eastern pa

central va to dallas

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You already gave the geography; what is the distance?

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 Post subject: Re: 900 Mile Range Indoor TV Antenna
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1200 miles from ric to dal (E layer, one or two hops)

250 miles from ric to phila (tropo ducting)

my best FM E skip was from central pa to montana was a good 1700 miles.

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 Post subject: Re: 900 Mile Range Indoor TV Antenna
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excellent

i will pick some of those batteries up to so the cellphone will stay charged until i'm dead.

i will need the generator at the hoover dam to charge it though.

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 Post subject: Re: 900 Mile Range Indoor TV Antenna
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our antenna was struck by a flying tree that was attempting to escape a strong wind..the cable was torn off and the bare wire with no connector was lying on the ground..i stuck the tip into the disconnected 12volt porch light socket on my travel trailer and i got a better signal than any boosted wing antenna has ever provided..and if you consider a local broadcasting station is rebroadcasting (forwarding) programming from a channel in chicago then i guess you might say that light socket picks up channels over 2000 miles away! wow! im gonna rip that $2 socket off and sell it on ebay for $16.. on


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 Post subject: Re: 900 Mile Range Indoor TV Antenna
PostPosted: Jan Sun 19, 2020 6:27 pm 
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Understandably, the antenna is rubbish...

I did, receive in the 60's, Miami FL in New Bedford MA via e-skip. The antenna was a single reflector w/folded dipole, FWIR ch, 2.

TV would be on most of the day on weekends during the summer, when ch 2 audio would start the whining sound, the raster would roll horizontally the image fade in/out like a 50's era sci-fi flick...

Off to the Ham shack and work DX on 6-Meters.

I do miss these quirks that used come and go on analog TV.

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Chas wrote:

I did, receive in the 60's, Miami FL in New Bedford MA via e-skip. The antenna was a single reflector w/folded dipole, FWIR ch, 2.

TV would be on most of the day on weekends during the summer, when ch 2 audio would start the whining sound, the raster would roll horizontally the image fade in/out like a 50's era sci-fi flick...


Ohh that was bitchen! For me it was channel 3, usually in late spring, and all I had was a 12" Sharp B/W TV with a telescoping whip antenna in my apartment. Sometimes two different DX would fight it out, leaving me not knowing which stations they were, LOL!

One thing I've learned about RF though, is that it almost doesn't matter what kind of "skyhook" is used, because when the signal came in, any sufficiently sized metal antenna would pick it up.

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 Post subject: Re: 900 Mile Range Indoor TV Antenna
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i could get Dallas on Ch 2 when i lived in VA.

it was a regular for quite a while in the summertime between 9am and 1pm.

as soon as the screeching and whining started, it came in.

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 Post subject: Re: 900 Mile Range Indoor TV Antenna
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I have been on cable since '81.

So, I wonder what does DX look like on digital TV, I assume the lowest frequency broadcasting that could be effected by Tropo?

Must look like a lot of confetti, or does the set just go blank with a message like "Unsuitable Signal"?

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 Post subject: Re: 900 Mile Range Indoor TV Antenna
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You see some pixellation, and then the screen goes blank, sometimes with a "no signal" prompt. With digital it's either there or it ain't, unlike analog where you could see and hear some of the broadcast even in somewhat deep snow.

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