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 Post subject: Its baaaaacccccccckkkkkkk!
PostPosted: Aug Mon 30, 2021 6:16 pm 
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Seller sold this MR6 Interpanel for $822.00 in an auction that ended on July 18th, a very low price for this radio. Now the same seller has it up again for $1495.00.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/334073030227?h ... SwYB1g6vP5

https://www.ebay.com/itm/234161561075?h ... SwqC9hKYWN

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 Post subject: Re: Its baaaaacccccccckkkkkkk!
PostPosted: Aug Mon 30, 2021 8:53 pm 
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Yawn! Yeah, that was kind of predictable.

For those of you who may not be up to speed about the ongoing drama of this MR-6, here's a previous thread which first discussed it. viewtopic.php?f=11&t=399554&hilit=DeForest

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 Post subject: Re: Its baaaaacccccccckkkkkkk!
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Must have a shed full of them :roll:

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 Post subject: Re: Its baaaaacccccccckkkkkkk!
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What was the predictable part? I read the thread, the radio might have had collectability issues, but at the price I don't know that I should have expected a return


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 Post subject: Re: Its baaaaacccccccckkkkkkk!
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I wouldn't have returned it, buyer got it at a very good price. I'm wondering if the sale was cancelled because seller was disappointed with the final bid.

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 Post subject: Re: Its baaaaacccccccckkkkkkk!
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I find that whenever an item is sold on Ebay at a great loss, somehow, someway, it usually reappears on Ebay again by the same seller and usually with a BIN price. I just had a gut feeling that this receiver was going to show up again. Apparently at $1500, the seller has accepted the fact that he's going to lose out big time with the sale of this receiver and $1500 is about as much as he can ever hope to recover from his initial investment of $2500 or so. He may be right and I guess we'll see.

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 Post subject: Re: Its baaaaacccccccckkkkkkk!
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Gee, just saw that listed this morning, now its sold.

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 Post subject: Re: Its baaaaacccccccckkkkkkk!
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Apparently the seller accepted a best offer. My guess is it sold for around $1200, maybe $1300.

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I'm glad you guys don't watch every move I make.


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 Post subject: Re: Its baaaaacccccccckkkkkkk!
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Indiana Radios wrote:
Apparently the seller accepted a best offer. My guess is it sold for around $1200, maybe $1300.


Is it on your bucket list?

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Worst time of year to sell. More bidders and higher bids when weather gets cold and more people home and bidding.

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 Post subject: Re: Its baaaaacccccccckkkkkkk!
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In my opinion, $1500 and $2500 are pretty much the same number, since they're within a factor of 2 of each other. If you pay $2500 for a radio at auction, you surely must understand that you won it because you were the guy willing to pay more than absolutely everybody else.

If it's an internet auction, "everybody" includes pretty much everybody in the world. Once you win an online auction, the chance of you ever being able to "get your money back out of it" is practically nil. No-one else was willing to pay that much.

I never like to tell people a radio is worth $200. I prefer to say it's worth $100-300. Whatever price it changes hands for in that range is pretty normal. Sell one this week for $300, sell one next week for $120, sell one the week after for $220. That's all the same price. People get wrapped around the axle over differences that are statistically insignificant.

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 Post subject: Re: Its baaaaacccccccckkkkkkk!
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I have to respectfully disagree Rodney. I've found many bargains online and the ones I didn't keep for my collection I sold for more than I paid. You must be loaded if $1500 and $2500 are the same thing to you. From now on I'm going to agree with everyone of your posts to increase my chances of getting in your will. :wink: (Of course, if I go first then the plan isn't a very good one, is it?) :lol:

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 Post subject: Re: Its baaaaacccccccckkkkkkk!
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No, I'm not loaded. But it's about risk tolerance.

If I suddenly acquired a million dollars of debt, I would die a pauper, if not in debtors' prison. But to a guy with $50 billion in the bank, a million dollars is the difference between $2.328 billion or $2.327 billion... not the end of his world.

So if you can stand to lose $2000--and it's a personality thing as much as a net worth thing--then feel free to be messing about with $2000-8000 radios. If you can only stand to lose $200, then feel free to play with radios that are $200-800, but maybe stay away from the $5000 heavy hitters. If you can only stand to lose $20, then it would be smart to keep your radios in the $20-80 range...

I think it's crazy when people push their limits, and buy a $2500 radio feeling sure it's an investment. Unlikely. If you lose $1000, what did you expect? If you can only stand to lose $20 else it's going to needle you in your gut forever, then you shouldn't ever have been buying a $2500 radio.

Bargains are a different issue. When the established value of a radio is $300-600, and you catch one for $20, yeah, you did great, and you can hope to sell it for more! It's unlikely the radio suddenly depreciated. When you are bidding in an Estes auction and end up paying $660+the vig, it's unlikely the radio suddenly appreciated. But also recognize that $300-600 radio may be only a $100-300 in 10 years. It could be $500-1000 as well, but the trend seems more downward than upward.

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 Post subject: Re: Its baaaaacccccccckkkkkkk!
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As I have said previously it is sad that money is running our hobby


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 Post subject: Re: Its baaaaacccccccckkkkkkk!
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I agree with everything Rodney posted. :mrgreen:

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 Post subject: Re: Its baaaaacccccccckkkkkkk!
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Merrill Bancroft wrote:
As I have said previously it is sad that money is running our hobby

Even in the 1980's the old timers, i.e. Mel Comer used to charge an arm and a leg for stuff he was selling.

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Yeah, making a business (or a living) out of a hobby is always bound to make a mess out of things.

It's kind of like gambling. As long as you're spending pocket money and not the rent money, it's all cool. The definition of "pocket money" varies from person to person.


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mrx wrote:
Merrill Bancroft wrote:
As I have said previously it is sad that money is running our hobby

Even in the 1980's the old timers, i.e. Mel Comer used to charge an arm and a leg for stuff he was selling.
He, he :D

How well I remember his "Mel-O'Dynes" Some really nice A-K breadboard parts, partially wired on the board... That was the top of a Radiola 60.

I have made a few deals with Mel over the years. Got some bargains and lots of cool industrial tubes that were '"worthless" 50 years ago.

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Mel was indeed hard to forget!!


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