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 Post subject: Re: Stratosphere on Auction
PostPosted: Sep Sat 25, 2021 7:21 pm 
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Well, that took me by surprise. Maybe Stratospheres are settling down in value. Maybe the day's of astronomical high prices are pretty much over for the time being.

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 Post subject: Re: Stratosphere on Auction
PostPosted: Sep Sat 25, 2021 7:54 pm 
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That took me by surprise too, but the one in the Monios auction sold for about the same. Granted it was refinished, but very well done.

Personally, i prefer to have an original, even if its not perfect.
I've been on the fence about refinishing mine, and a couple members here have been trying to get me to refinish it, but the more I think about it, I think its better left alone.

Any opinions here on that?

Yes, i updated the list I have too.

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 Post subject: Re: Stratosphere on Auction
PostPosted: Sep Sat 25, 2021 8:08 pm 
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I've been on the fence about refinishing mine, and a couple members here have been trying to get me to refinish it, but the more I think about it, I think its better left alone.

Any opinions here on that?

If the cabinet on any radio is in a condition that appears correct and not abused for it's age, ie: looks like it should if bought, used and cared for in normal fashion, then I would probably NOT want to refinish it.

To me, the $ value is less important than the historical value and the patina, including all the little scratches and water stains is part of the history.

If a person were to refinish this one that just sold, I'd put that work in the same class as painting it blue with a peacock painted on top. To each their own, but they don't all "need" a refinish.


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 Post subject: Re: Stratosphere on Auction
PostPosted: Sep Sat 25, 2021 8:42 pm 
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I think its better left alone. Any opinions here on that?


Leave it alone. I wouldn't even touch it up in small places.

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 Post subject: Re: Stratosphere on Auction
PostPosted: Sep Sat 25, 2021 9:05 pm 
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Yeah, its the way I'm leaning.

Please, I don't want to cause anyone to take things personal here on this decision.
The last thing I want is hard feelings.

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P.S. The one that sold in the Monios auction was one number away from mine in the serial number sequence. It was very tempting but I couldn't do it.


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 Post subject: Re: Stratosphere on Auction
PostPosted: Sep Sat 25, 2021 9:11 pm 
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Your Stratosphere has only one chance of being original and there's only a finite number of original Strats left in this world. If you refinish it, and it turns out all wrong, you'll have only yourself to blame for it.

I'm looking at your Strat and wondering what's so wrong with it that you even have the slightest consideration about refinishing it. Don't refinish it just for the sake of refinishing it.

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 Post subject: Re: Stratosphere on Auction
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The worst is on the top. Particularly the left area of the top.
Its missing much of its finish.
I know if Fred Taylor refinished it, it would be done correctly. but as you say, its only original once.
Its not bad enough that it bothers me as other radios I have which do need refinishing.
I think I'll leave it be.

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 Post subject: Re: Stratosphere on Auction
PostPosted: Sep Sat 25, 2021 9:41 pm 
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The worst is on the top. Particularly the left area of the top.

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Nice FOX Steve. Here is my Strat Cat.
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 Post subject: Re: Stratosphere on Auction
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Thanks John!
I once had a cat named Tiger. I very much wanted to take a photo of him sitting in my Stratosphere when i found one, but I was never able to find one before he passed away.
It was 14 years after his death before I got this one.

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 Post subject: Re: Stratosphere on Auction
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Reserve must have been low.


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 Post subject: Re: Stratosphere on Auction
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Steve, why don't you post a good photo of the top of your Strat? I'm just curious just how bad it really is.

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 Post subject: Re: Stratosphere on Auction
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HI Steve we lost Baby Strat last January. Kidney Failure. He managed to get to age 20 years and 8 months. I still miss the little guy terribly.

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Thanks John!
I once had a cat named Tiger. I very much wanted to take a photo of him sitting in my Stratosphere when i found one, but I was never able to find one before he passed away.
It was 14 years after his death before I got this one.

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 Post subject: Re: Stratosphere on Auction
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I'm so sorry to hear that John, Kidney failure is what took Tiger. He was 18 years old. His mother Julie died about the same time and she was 19.


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Steve, why don't you post a good photo of the top of your Strat? I'm just curious just how bad it really is.


Very well, here you go.

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 Post subject: Re: Stratosphere on Auction
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Yeah, that is definitely an issue with your Strat. My thoughts are that at some point in time that Strat will have it's top refinished whether it's by you or it's next owner or it's next owner after that, etc., Who knows if they'll do a good job or not so, I guess, it might as well be you. I'm sure if you have someone like Fred Taylor do it, it just might turn out nice and justifiable. Refinishing the top might actually do it justice. I think the walnut part could be refinished while retaining the original black lacquer trim. It's up to you but after seeing just how bad the top is, maybe refinishing it isn't the worst thing after all.

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 Post subject: Re: Stratosphere on Auction
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Indiana Radios wrote:
Well, that took me by surprise. Maybe Stratospheres are settling down in value. Maybe the day's of astronomical high prices are pretty much over for the time being.


Seems like the price for the Strat's are coming back down to earth.

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 Post subject: Re: Stratosphere on Auction
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Which was the last to sell prior to this one? I only know of the one at the Monios auction March 2020 which brought about the same amount of money.

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 Post subject: Re: Stratosphere on Auction
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Steve, I agree with just refinishing the top and leaving the rest alone.

I have one console where a previous owner refinished just the top. He did an excellent job matching the color and sheen of the original finish on the rest of the radio. It took me a couple years of looking at it to decide that yes, it had been refinished, and finally stop questioning it in my mind.

I think if Fred can refinish the top like that, it would be worth doing.

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 Post subject: Re: Stratosphere on Auction
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Very well, here you go.

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If this is an original finish, and the entire set is original, what I would do if it was mine, is leave it alone, but protect it from further damage. We obviously can't predict the future, but if you have an estate to leave, this piece is rare enough to qualify as a collectable. Most of the radios that we own (probably 99.9%) don't fit into that bracket and are relatively worthless, but with less than 400 produced and only a few accounted for now, having a completely original Strat in 100 years will be something for your greatgrandkids to appreciate, both as a valuable antique and as a memento.

Just my thoughts ..... and yes, I know that Fred would do it more than justice, but once it's done, it's no longer an original.


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 Post subject: Re: Stratosphere on Auction
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Thank you all for the advice.
Much appreciated, but I'm going to leave it alone.

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 Post subject: Re: Stratosphere on Auction
PostPosted: Sep Sun 26, 2021 7:07 pm 
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Thank you all for the advice.
Much appreciated, but I'm going to leave it alone.
-Steve

I would be concerned about the risks of shipping, accidents, etc. Your environment is most likely the best for keeping it in its current condition.


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