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 Post subject: Re: Black and White TV License in the UK
PostPosted: Nov Thu 14, 2019 12:34 am 
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True, but what would happen if you did not pay utilities and/or the HOA?

Most of the land in this country is not in a HOA, but a HOA fee is no different than a property tax. It is just at a lower level. As for utilities, assuming you have a building on your land, if you don't pay you will be disconnected.


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 Post subject: Re: Black and White TV License in the UK
PostPosted: Nov Thu 14, 2019 1:02 am 
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You couldn't pay me to live in a location with an HOA.

In the country is where I belong where I can string up antennas, erect towers and not worry what neighbors think!

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 Post subject: Re: Black and White TV License in the UK
PostPosted: Nov Thu 14, 2019 1:14 am 
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Me too Steve.
I mow my lawns when I feel like it. lol

Around here, HOAs are run by nosy neighbors with nothing better to do... :shock:
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 Post subject: Re: Black and White TV License in the UK
PostPosted: Nov Thu 14, 2019 1:42 am 
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Don't forget that the licence fee is for the BBC, because the BBC do not have adverts for a revenue source. If you can show that you don't watch BBC then you don't need a licence. Not sure how that works in practice though.
In the old days BT went around in TV detector vans, and if the records showed that you have not paid they would knock on your door. The vans had antennas looking for the local oscillators from working TV's.

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 Post subject: Re: Black and White TV License in the UK
PostPosted: Nov Thu 14, 2019 2:04 am 
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I wonder if it wasn't easier to pick up the 15,625 Hz sweep?

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 Post subject: Re: Black and White TV License in the UK
PostPosted: Nov Thu 14, 2019 2:44 am 
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There a̶r̶e̶ was no TV detector vans...
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Bad actors...
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oh... if you watch or record live TV on any device in the UK, you need a license, not just for BBC channels.


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 Post subject: Re: Black and White TV License in the UK
PostPosted: Nov Thu 14, 2019 4:36 am 
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That is incorrect! Titles are evidence of ownership for vehicles and real estate.

Well, I will agree with you on the cars, but on real estate, maybe not. I have always said that you really don't own your house or property because if you fail to pay your property taxes, you will have it taken away.....

That's not accurate. You certainly do own your Real Estate property, and outright if you have clear title to it. The counties ability to seize it for non payment of property taxes (5 years in L.A. County) does not constitute ownership until they actually claim it for back taxes, and then one still has the opportunity to regain it upon full payment of taxes owing, for a certain period of time (I think it's a year here).

Now I'll give ya something to chew on; I paid for my late wife and my own cemetery graves. They are each Real Estate properties, of which I have the titles. No property taxes are or ever will be due, and they can't be taken away from us... :wink:

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 Post subject: Re: Black and White TV License in the UK
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Now I'll give ya something to chew on; I paid for my late wife and my own cemetery graves. They are each Real Estate properties, of which I have the titles. No property taxes are or ever will be due, and they can't be taken away from us... :wink:
Great point and good for a late evening laugh. Thanks!

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 Post subject: Re: Black and White TV License in the UK
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I can assure you that tv licensing vans were a reality, they used to look for the line output oscillator. I know this as we had a visit not long after we moved in to the house,
they gave the option of going to court or paying on the spot. We paid on the spot, the guy had a box about the size of an old cassette radio, it had a field strength meter and hand held antenna.
He was quite happy to show me the thing working.


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 Post subject: Re: Black and White TV License in the UK
PostPosted: Nov Thu 14, 2019 12:33 pm 
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The only time Humans get that level of respect is when they are babies or children and after they are dead.

Otherwise we are kicked around like a sack of potatoes. :lol:

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 Post subject: Re: Black and White TV License in the UK
PostPosted: Nov Fri 15, 2019 1:25 am 
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This makes me think of a Crocodile Dundee quote.

"Aborigines don't own the land. They belong to it. It's like their mother. See those rocks? Been standing there for 600 million years. Still be there when you and I are gone. So arguing over who owns them is like two fleas arguing over who owns the dog they live on."

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 Post subject: Re: Black and White TV License in the UK
PostPosted: Nov Fri 15, 2019 3:53 am 
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Scott wrote:
I believe that one should be able to own their land and never have to pay a dime to keep that possession. Funding for roads, schools, etc should be generated by other means.

In your opinion "should be", but in reality, ain't.

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Now I'll give ya something to chew on; I paid for my late wife and my own cemetery graves. They are each Real Estate properties, of which I have the titles. No property taxes are or ever will be due, and they can't be taken away from us... :wink:

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I agree that you actually own a property that is tax exempt like a grave site. But yes, it can be taken away. There have been plenty of cases in the past where graveyards have been relocated. So if you think that that one perfect spot under the Mulberry tree will be yours forever, maybe or maybe not.

A relocation would simply be just that; one still doesn't lose their burial rite.

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 Post subject: Re: Black and White TV License in the UK
PostPosted: Nov Fri 15, 2019 4:18 am 
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Have you been living under a rock Mike.

The whole TV detector van was a scare tactic that generations of UK citizens fell for. I don't care what he showed you. lol

"Evidence cannot be heard in a court of law unless it is available to both the prosecution and the defense, and since TV Licensing and the BBC refuse to disclose the technology they use, its results cannot be admitted as evidence".

sheesh... call me stoopid, I ain't... :)


Hey, watch-out, they have a new detector device for flat-screens!

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 Post subject: Re: Black and White TV License in the UK
PostPosted: Nov Fri 15, 2019 8:44 am 
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Dont' believe everything you read in the papers,
yes there is al lot of phooey involved, but do you think that the licence authority would spend thousands of pounds on vans and employees just to get a few license dodgers.?
Hmm..


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 Post subject: Re: Black and White TV License in the UK
PostPosted: Nov Sun 17, 2019 6:32 am 
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Mike uk wrote:
... but do you think that the licence authority would spend thousands of pounds on vans and employees just to get a few license dodgers.? Hmm..
Er... yes! It's work for the public service and fees for the unions. Glad I left the UK in 1970.
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 Post subject: Re: Black and White TV License in the UK
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Mike uk wrote:
It's a ripoff at £154 or $200, per year for color
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I would gladly pay $200 a year for NO COMMERCIALS, like it was promised at the beginning of our cable TV.


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 Post subject: Re: Black and White TV License in the UK
PostPosted: Nov Tue 19, 2019 2:16 pm 
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It's a ripoff at £154 or $200, per year for color
Mike uk


I would gladly pay $200 a year for NO COMMERCIALS, like it was promised at the beginning of our cable TV.


Oh Mike, did you hid a nerve here!!!! Yes, those bloody thieves weaseled their way into the business and now the commercials are every bit as obnoxious as on Network TV. "Pay for TV and STILL have to watch the commercials. And one step further, there was a huge push back by the industry when people used DVR machines to skip commercials. How DARE them!

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 Post subject: Re: Black and White TV License in the UK
PostPosted: Nov Tue 19, 2019 9:19 pm 
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Mike uk wrote:
It's a ripoff at £154 or $200, per year for color
Mike uk


I would gladly pay $200 a year for NO COMMERCIALS, like it was promised at the beginning of our cable TV.


Oh Mike, did you hid a nerve here!!!! Yes, those bloody thieves weaseled their way into the business and now the commercials are every bit as obnoxious as on Network TV. "Pay for TV and STILL have to watch the commercials. And one step further, there was a huge push back by the industry when people used DVR machines to skip commercials. How DARE them!

/rant

Things change over time, Don old boy, and all ya can do is roll with the flow. Cable is simply a carrier, not the programmer. I pay for basic cable, and then an extra 10 or 15 bucks a month for TCM and a few other channels that really are commercial free.
When I watch any of the cable news channels, the mute button on the remote gets actively used when they "go to a break".

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 Post subject: Re: Black and White TV License in the UK
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... I pay for basic cable, and then an extra 10 or 15 bucks a month for TCM and a few other channels that really are commercial free. When I watch any of the cable news channels, the mute button on the remote gets actively used when they "go to a break".
We hit the mute on all commercials and PBS fund-raisers. Trouble is, the advertisers seem to be getting wise to this and now make commercials almost suited to silent movies! They'll be waving placards soon...
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 Post subject: Re: Black and White TV License in the UK
PostPosted: Nov Wed 20, 2019 11:53 pm 
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Yeah, one of those happened recently. I all of a sudden noticed the TV was dead silent, Looked up to see it was an ad for a local Harley Davidson dealer that was totally silent on purpose..... unlike their motorcycles! :lol:

Well, yeah, it certainly grabbed my attention! Well, that will work for a while until it becomes the norm.
Granted, that eliminates the need for the mute button :wink:

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