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 Post subject: sidelined - or "yeah - it was from falling off a horse"
PostPosted: Aug Sun 01, 2021 4:09 am 
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Daughter and I ride English, a little over 10 years of lessons so far. Her, starting as a kid, is a natural . Me, starting riding as an adult (late adult at that) not such a natural. Was in my lesson last week, doing a jump course, having fun and was pretty happy with my progress. Jumps were short (crossrails and one 2' vertical). Cantering the course and towards the end of the lesson the horse either had enough or got happy and started bucking. Wasn't bad, totally felt like i was under control but then came off (note to self, shut it down sooner). didn't feel like a hard fall unlike when i broke my collarbone, but when i got up, my left wrist was obviously broken (impressively smashed was the surgeon's description).

I never realized how much one needs both hands until you can't use one. Note- almost to the day but 10 years earlier, wife broke both wrists - so we're familiar with the recovery process. I'm so glad I could get the surgeon I wanted and they could get me into surgery so soon.

meanwhile, finishing my repair of my s-38 receiver, headgasket on the TDI, and general car maintenance are on hold.

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 Post subject: Re: sidelined - or "yeah - it was from falling off a horse"
PostPosted: Aug Sun 01, 2021 4:57 am 
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Why are you lynching your fingers? It wasn't THEIR fault! :-) I have not seen that before but it makes sense. I like your doctor's comment about being "impressively smashed." Yep, that's what it looks like alright.

Seriously hope things go well for you in the healing process.

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 Post subject: Re: sidelined - or "yeah - it was from falling off a horse"
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That's nuthin... :shock:

During his career, Evel Knievel may have suffered more than 433 bone fractures, earning an entry in the Guinness Book of World Records as the survivor of "most bones broken in a lifetime".


Seriously dood, the most dangerous thing that I do nowadays, is put on and take off my pants. lol
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 Post subject: Re: sidelined - or "yeah - it was from falling off a horse"
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Eickerman wrote:
Why are you lynching your fingers? It wasn't THEIR fault! :-) I have not seen that before but it makes sense. I like your doctor's comment about being "impressively smashed." Yep, that's what it looks like alright.

Seriously hope things go well for you in the healing process.

Curtis Eickerman

Hah! A coworker asked me which infinity stone I was missing. .. .

That photo was in ER - they put me in traction (there's about 10 pounds of weight hanging off my elbow that you can't see) to get the break in a more natural position before splinting it, and sending me home with the order 'you need an orthopedic surgeon'. Felt a lot better after the traction.


Egg, Evil Knievel did come to mind. Between me, my daughter and my wife, we've spent a lot of $$ at this orthopedic center these past 15 years.


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 Post subject: Re: sidelined - or "yeah - it was from falling off a horse"
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Greetings to ai6vx and the Forum:

Best wishes for a speedy recovery.

I don't ride horses.... at my weight, it would be considered cruelty to animals. :D

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the most dangerous thing that I do nowadays, is put on and take off my pants.

Where exactly are you, when this activity becomes dangerous???? ;-)

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 Post subject: Re: sidelined - or "yeah - it was from falling off a horse"
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Two things to remember when riding a horse (as told to me many, many years ago): One, don't fall off and two, don't forget to duck when it decides to head into the barn. Seriously, sorry for your hurting and best wishes for a speedy recovery.

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 Post subject: Re: sidelined - or "yeah - it was from falling off a horse"
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Look out, airport metal detectors, here I come. Hope the pain stays manageable.

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 Post subject: Re: sidelined - or "yeah - it was from falling off a horse"
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Jthorusen wrote:

I don't ride horses.... at my weight, it would be considered cruelty to animals. :D


A few years ago I spend about a week at a dude ranch in Arizona. First time on a horse, we all lined up and they picked out a proper horse for each of us to ride. When I arrived at the front of the line, they brought out a horse that looked like he would be at home pulling a beer wagon. Jim


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 Post subject: Re: sidelined - or "yeah - it was from falling off a horse"
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I can't ride horses. The wind blows me right off! :wink:

Get better soon!

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I used to go to school on a horse - I was about 6 years old - a cart horse that belonged to one of my friends Dad - he was the village milkman. He'd finished his round by 8am so his boy Alfred arrived outside our driveway ten minutes later on the horse which I think was called William. I climbed up too and we picked up two girls a bit further down the lane. School was about 1.5miles away, William knew the way and was let loose in a paddock behind the school. Everybody was happy - we got a warm ride to school and back, William had free food all day and got to socialise with three or four friends!

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 Post subject: Re: sidelined - or "yeah - it was from falling off a horse"
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thanks everyone! I'll definitely be 'getting back on the horse' literally once I'm able. Horses are cool. I'm continually amazed they put up with us.

the splint/wrap i have on now comes off this thursday and then i get a slip on brace. i'll start physical therapy right afterwards - looking forward to that , sort of.

managed to do an oil change today. got the ramps out, got it done and the only thing i couldn't do was pour the old oil from the catch pan into the used oil container.


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 Post subject: Re: sidelined - or "yeah - it was from falling off a horse"
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ai6vx wrote:
... get the break in a more natural position before splinting it, and sending me home with the order 'you need an orthopedic surgeon'. Felt a lot better after the traction.



They sent you home?? Did they schedule the orthopedic surgery or were you on your own?


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 Post subject: Re: sidelined - or "yeah - it was from falling off a horse"
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They sent you home?? Did they schedule the orthopedic surgery or were you on your own?

yep, on your own. My collarbone - "you need to see an ortho surgeon" and sent me home. wife's two broken wrists, same thing. daughter's ankle, same thing. Wife broke both wrists on a saturday, didn't get surgery until Friday, but first we had to find a doc, see if he is in plan, is the anesthesiologist in plan? what about the center? go for the visit, get evaluated, then scheduled for surgery, and before that - go for pre-op stuff (labs and ekg)

in fact, this time when i realized i broke my wirst, I didn't care that I broke it but I was feeling sick knowing that very likely ER wasn't going to do anything and then I'll need to deal with the hassle of getting myself fixed. Hoping the surgeon I wanted to use was available (not on vacation), the following day was weds and surgeries are on Friday, so can he see me AND get me into this friday's surgery schedule? pretty tight but it all worked out.

ER will make a recommendation, but it's up to you to do everything

fwiw, i have a PPO


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Glad to read you are even doing an oil change, but OUCH!

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From a very young age, I never liked horses. When I was around 8 years old I went to visit my Aunt and Uncle on their farm. Their daughter had a few horses and every once in awhile she would have me ride with her on one of her older horses. One day she asked if I would like to ride by myself. So I got up there and rode maybe halfway across the yard when the horses decided she didn't like me, got down on the ground and proceeded to roll. Luckily I immediately ran away. Otherwise I probably would've been seriously hurt. Never really like horses after that


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 Post subject: Re: sidelined - or "yeah - it was from falling off a horse"
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2 weeks after surgery and the splint and stitches came out. Wrist shape looks good, and now I get to wear a remove-able brace. So nice to get to bathe that arm. I start PT on Monday and boy is everything stiff.
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Looks much better. Keep with the PT and you will be back in the saddle in no time.

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The joys of health insurance. Bills are starting to come in now. I have blue cross blue shield, but since my company's headquarters is in Oregon, the plan is based in Oregon.

So my ER visit. . . just like when I broke my collarbone 4 years ago - everything billed from the ER visit is in-plan EXCEPT the doctors they employ. So my xrays, pain meds, monitoring, temporary splint, etc, all covered at 80% of negotiated rate. ER doc, not in plan, and right now they're covering 0%, but they should be covering 50%. But get this - it's only 50% of what they think the charge SHOULD be (again, the negotiated rate in this case is hypothetical).

When I broke my collarbone, ER docs tried to charge $2K, insurance said "this in only worth $300, and we pay 50% out of network, so here's $150". The company the ER docs work for balance billed me the difference and I couldn't do anything about it. They wouldn't reduce the bill. California doesn't allow balance billing, but since my insurance is based in Oregon, I'm not protected. My wrist, they want $3.3K for what they did in ER. The ssurgery itself, from an in-network facility with in-network docs, was $2K for my portion.

Oh, and out of pocket maximums? Insurance only looks at what you paid as if it were an negotiated rate. The fact my actual cost is much higher for an out of network doc doesn't even get recognized!!

Uggh, I hate the games medical billing plays.

Oh, and I'm just 5 weeks post surgery and my range of motion is still really bad wrist wise. Fingers are decent, but my thumb doesn't even move in one direction (I can't pick it up when my palm is flat on the table). Quite a set back.


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 Post subject: Re: sidelined - or "yeah - it was from falling off a horse"
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ai6vx wrote:
Daughter and I ride English, a little over 10 years
of lessons so far. Her, starting as a kid, is a natural. Me, starting
riding as an adult (late adult at that) not such a natural. Was in
my lesson last week, doing a jump course...the horse...started
bucking... came off ...didn't feel like a hard fall...when I got up,
my left wrist was obviously broken (impressively smashed was
the surgeon's description).

OUCH! My wish for a speedy recovery. :(
I hope your finger's range of motion improves!
Pardon my editing for brevity.

First time I ever rode a horse was at the Griffith Park Stables, SFV,
CA. when I was a kid. Horses KNOW when you are a noobie. That
darn horse took me under a low tree branch to try and scrape me
off! :o Tore my shirt.

Didn't get on a horse again until about 20 years ago, here on the
Oregon Coast. There is a cool place where they stable the horses on
the east side of the Hwy., and then after some 'orientation' and fitting
riders to horses, they single file lead you across the Hwy. to the beach. 8)
The horses are not roped together. They've done it so many times they
Know the Drill.

Once on the beach, as the small group of, I suspect 'noobies', blissfully
rode along the edge of the waves...without warning the cowboy lets
loose a YEEHAW! :shock: and as the horses all took off as fast as they
could, I thought I heard him say: "Ride 'em, Cowboy"!

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