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 Post subject: Abuse of our language
PostPosted: Sep Mon 13, 2021 7:11 pm 
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This week's top abuse: the verb "To ohm out".......First, is this a transitive verb???---i'd always assumed yes, but i just saw something like "It ohmed-out good"----implying that it contributed to the overall well-being of mankind by having a rational resistance value, with acceptably low measurement error.. Translation: it was in a condition that allowed a random person to measure a few key parameters which would allow another person to sya what--if anything--it might be useful for.

But, I digress......to use "ohm out" as a transitive verb is bad enough. I'm suddenly thankful that i havenot yet witnessed anyone "farading-out" a widget.....or (shudder)"henry-ing out" the same

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 Post subject: Re: Abuse of our language
PostPosted: Sep Mon 13, 2021 7:15 pm 
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I will resist using Oxx-Oxx.

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 Post subject: Re: Abuse of our language
PostPosted: Sep Mon 13, 2021 7:33 pm 
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 Post subject: Re: Abuse of our language
PostPosted: Sep Mon 13, 2021 7:44 pm 
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far out man

You always crack me up, Greg... :lol:

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 Post subject: Re: Abuse of our language
PostPosted: Sep Mon 13, 2021 7:50 pm 
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Ours is a relatively idiom-filled hobby. That tends to make technical communication with newbies somewhat challenging; but for those who have been around long enough to understand the slang, it's just a shortcut means of expressing an idea or status.

From my exposure to Saba radio service manuals, I get the impression that the Germans as just as addicted as English-speakers to inventing slang technical expressions to concisely describe something without in fact describing it. At least, I haven't stumbled upon a German-to-English online translator for electronic technical slang yet.


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 Post subject: Re: Abuse of our language
PostPosted: Sep Mon 13, 2021 7:53 pm 
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I'm Ohmed-out most days, and that's before I get out of bed. lol

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 Post subject: Re: Abuse of our language
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pixellany wrote:
This week's top abuse: the verb "To ohm out"......

Language is organic and ever developing.

Do you "move snow with a shovel" or do you "shovel snow"? How long has it been since the shovel was invented and how long after that before some language-lazy slob used the noun as a verb?


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 Post subject: Re: Abuse of our language
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Who made the rule that says antique radio discussion has to be in english, and precise textbook english at that ? If it is readily understood and not rarely used, I submit it is acceptable.


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 Post subject: Re: Abuse of our language
PostPosted: Sep Mon 13, 2021 8:12 pm 
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I absolutely HATE idioms and jargon! I draw a lot of home remodeling plans and when I hear a home owner say the they want to "blow out the rear wall" or "grow the master bedroom" I usually add $200 to their drafting fee.
And acronyms. Especially when people make up their own or use obscure ones that only a certified RCTP would know.

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 Post subject: Re: Abuse of our language
PostPosted: Sep Mon 13, 2021 8:16 pm 
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John Bartley wrote:
pixellany wrote:
This week's top abuse: the verb "To ohm out"......

Language is organic and ever developing.

Do you "move snow with a shovel" or do you "shovel snow"? How long has it been since the shovel was invented and how long after that before some language-lazy slob used the noun as a verb?


Exactly so. It is best to examining your own use of the language as you are probably as guilt as the rest of us. In my case GUILTY, GUILTY, GUILTY!


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 Post subject: Re: Abuse of our language
PostPosted: Sep Mon 13, 2021 8:32 pm 
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I've had people try to express the output power of their receiver in ohms. The speaker has a specific ohm rating, so why not? :)

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 Post subject: Re: Abuse of our language
PostPosted: Sep Mon 13, 2021 8:40 pm 
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If the speaker successfully delivered the message to the intended audience and is understood, what does it matter?.
How many of you don't understand what is meant by " ohm out" although it makes some cringe and may damage the speaker's perceived education level.


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 Post subject: Re: Abuse of our language
PostPosted: Sep Mon 13, 2021 8:42 pm 
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It used to be we enjoyed our hobbies in relative isolation, so even the weird things we said we assumed belonged to us. Only with interaction do you find that someone else read "RTTY" and thought "ritty".

But in the internet age, things can propagate so much faster and easier. And a lot of people fit in by knowing the slang. So they can use it without much thought, helping it to spread.I

So if Mr Carlson says it on one of his "award winning" videos, Joe Nobody will use it.


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 Post subject: Re: Abuse of our language
PostPosted: Sep Mon 13, 2021 8:58 pm 
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And to go further with Mark's exasperation (I share it with you, Mark) how about this:

"I ohmed out the trannies in the monoblock before working on it" "It needs restore" . Heresy!!! (and I am NOT talking Klipsch).

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 Post subject: Re: Abuse of our language
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davep wrote:
... may damage the speaker's perceived education level.


Is this not enough reason not to say these things?


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 Post subject: Re: Abuse of our language
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John Bartley wrote:
Do you "move snow with a shovel" or do you "shovel snow"? How long has it been since the shovel was invented and how long after that before some language-lazy slob used the noun as a verb?


What if the verb was used as the noun, and the shovel was named after the act? Did some prehistoric person say, "I'm going to caribou-antler the snow?" Or did he shovel the snow with a caribou antler?


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 Post subject: Re: Abuse of our language
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SkyKing wrote:
John Bartley wrote:
Do you "move snow with a shovel" or do you "shovel snow"? How long has it been since the shovel was invented and how long after that before some language-lazy slob used the noun as a verb?


What if the verb was used as the noun, and the shovel was named after the act? Did some prehistoric person say, "I'm going to caribou-antler the snow?" Or did he shovel the snow with a caribou antler?

Hmmm, interesting idea, that an activity involving an item would have a name before the item did. I'm going to have to do some thinking now and see if I can come with an item that might have been named after it's use rather then vice-versa.


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 Post subject: Re: Abuse of our language
PostPosted: Sep Mon 13, 2021 10:19 pm 
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I'd bet Dave Barry would get a good laugh out of these threads. He'd get some ideas for mister language person.

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 Post subject: Re: Abuse of our language
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Every once in a while I read the term buzz out a component. What they mean to say is to check the resistance of a a given part. I always think of the guy using a growler to check an armature on the motor or generator. Confuses me for a second or two.

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 Post subject: Re: Abuse of our language
PostPosted: Sep Mon 13, 2021 11:23 pm 
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My mother always got fighting angry when someone used the term "Eye Dropper" She said it doesn't drop eyes!

I say, life is too short for anger and frustration over silly things like this. Smile and move on :D

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