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 Post subject: Re: Abuse of our language
PostPosted: Sep Mon 13, 2021 11:43 pm 
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So I’ll a bit confused. When someone ohms out something, can it ohm out good or ohm out bad? And if so, which? :roll:

And bygod .... doesn't ohming something out remove all the ohms?? :mrgreen:

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 Post subject: Re: Abuse of our language
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 Post subject: Re: Abuse of our language
PostPosted: Sep Mon 13, 2021 11:57 pm 
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“Ohmed out” and “continuity “ live in the same tent. I always follow up with “…what are the actual resistance measurements?”

It often reveals that the poster does not know how to use or read the meter. Or where to make the measurements.

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 Post subject: Re: Abuse of our language
PostPosted: Sep Tue 14, 2021 12:08 am 
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A continuity test is a bona fide test. lol
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 Post subject: Re: Abuse of our language
PostPosted: Sep Tue 14, 2021 12:46 am 
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I see nothing wrong with "ohmed out"

Earlier I was impedancing out some coil windings, and then I microfaraded out a bunch of old capacitators with my refructolometer.

Get with the new EE people.

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 Post subject: Re: Abuse of our language
PostPosted: Sep Tue 14, 2021 1:13 am 
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Haven't you got a reactance meter... :)

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 Post subject: Re: Abuse of our language
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Field techs have been using that phrase in industry for as long as I was a working stiff.
Frowned upon by the grammar cops, but universally understood by all in the context in which it was used.

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 Post subject: Re: Abuse of our language
PostPosted: Sep Tue 14, 2021 3:36 am 
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We understand the meaning of ohmed out perfectly, but you're right, it's slang.
English keeps evolving, people wear bones in their ears and say goofy stuff that becomes universal, and then you see ear bones and hear those goofy expressions everywhere.

A farmer once told me he wanted me to tether the hay, that is drive over the hay with a tether hay rake attached to the tractor. But he never said to tractor over there and hook up the tether, maybe that would have sounded odd.
Sometimes he would harrow the field. Sometimes he would truck stuff around. But he never tractored anything AFAIK.:D

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 Post subject: Re: Abuse of our language
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 Post subject: Re: Abuse of our language
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 Post subject: Re: Abuse of our language
PostPosted: Sep Tue 14, 2021 12:23 pm 
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We understand the meaning of ohmed out perfectly, but you're right, it's slang.
English keeps evolving, people wear bones in their ears and say goofy stuff that becomes universal, and then you see ear bones and hear those goofy expressions everywhere.

A farmer once told me he wanted me to tether the hay, that is drive over the hay with a tether hay rake attached to the tractor. But he never said to tractor over there and hook up the tether, maybe that would have sounded odd.
Sometimes he would harrow the field. Sometimes he would truck stuff around. But he never tractored anything AFAIK.:D


But it isn't tethering hay at all, except in a dialect variation on the phrase "tedding hay" (fluffing it up with a spinning rake.)

I love English. This aspect of it is partially why it's so interesting--Our words develop new pronunciations & new meanings, etymology remains as fascinating a field as old radios is, and it's just plain cool.

If we need an immutable language for permanent record-keeping I would suggest Latin, which used to be the academic standard for scientists, churchmen, and the like.


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 Post subject: Re: Abuse of our language
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John Bartley wrote:
SkyKing wrote:
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Do you "move snow with a shovel" or do you "shovel snow"? How long has it been since the shovel was invented and how long after that before some language-lazy slob used the noun as a verb?


What if the verb was used as the noun, and the shovel was named after the act? Did some prehistoric person say, "I'm going to caribou-antler the snow?" Or did he shovel the snow with a caribou antler?

Hmmm, interesting idea, that an activity involving an item would have a name before the item did. I'm going to have to do some thinking now and see if I can come with an item that might have been named after it's use rather then vice-versa.


While you're at it, investigate verbs that have become nouns, like "wipes," the little cleansing pads.

And even after hearing "impact" as a active verb for quite a few years now ("The budget cuts will impact the city's ability to keep the roads in good repair"), I will don't like it. It feels like a consultant's attempt to make a report seem more important than it is. Nothing wrong with "affect," or if negative, "impair." Grumble, grumble.

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 Post subject: Re: Abuse of our language
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Back in my theatre and broadcast days, we used to say "ring out" instead of "ohm out".

One possible source of "monoblock" is that some of the old tube power amps weigh about as much as a concrete block (or two!).

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 Post subject: Re: Abuse of our language
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Ohm it out = Simpsonize.


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 Post subject: Re: Abuse of our language
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egg wrote:
A continuity test is a bona fide test. lol
you have heard of the electron, right!

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I am talking about the poster that just got a 20s battery radio and he "...ohmed out the coils and transformers and they all had continuity..."; sometimes only means "... the meter beeped...". (After 2 pages of discussion.)

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 Post subject: Re: Abuse of our language
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Simpsonize it sounds like a commercial.

What was the brand of car wax that turned itself into a verb?


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 Post subject: Re: Abuse of our language
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After I Simpsonized the radio I Simonized my 260.

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 Post subject: Re: Abuse of our language
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Simpsonize it sounds like a commercial.

What was the brand of car wax that turned itself into a verb?

Simonize?

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 Post subject: Re: Abuse of our language
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That's it, Simonize.


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 Post subject: Re: Abuse of our language
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Motorist wise, simpsonize!

or something like that....


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