Perfidia

Dalton · **Posted:** Oct Thu 20, 2022 3:21 am

Heard on NPR, Artist unknown.

https://youtube.com/shorts/RsuerIKlqo4?feature=share

fifties · **Posted:** Oct Thu 20, 2022 3:28 am

This is the version I remember, from 1960;
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pyUcnor ... ortmorien1

AuroraOldRadios · **Posted:** Oct Fri 21, 2022 12:32 am

fifties wrote:

This is the version I remember, from 1960;
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pyUcnor ... ortmorien1

Didn't we buy Ventures' albums just for the music?

Ken Doyle · **Posted:** Oct Fri 21, 2022 11:17 am

There's always the original Xavier Cugat hit version
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OUFFLkN1tW4

and the pretty Glenn Miller version
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LeFiCR9GUWg

Dalton · **Posted:** Oct Wed 26, 2022 12:33 pm

fifties wrote:

This is the version I remember, from 1960;
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pyUcnor ... ortmorien1

The surf version!

Dalton · **Posted:** Oct Wed 26, 2022 12:34 pm

Ken Doyle wrote:

There's always the original Xavier Cugat hit version
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OUFFLkN1tW4

and the pretty Glenn Miller version
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LeFiCR9GUWg

Thanks, Ken!

Dalton · **Posted:** Oct Wed 26, 2022 12:35 pm

AuroraOldRadios wrote:

fifties wrote:

This is the version I remember, from 1960;
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pyUcnor ... ortmorien1

Didn't we buy Ventures' albums just for the music?

I remember!

westcoastjohn · **Posted:** Oct Fri 28, 2022 3:06 am

Trini Lopez had that song in his repertoire before the Ventures did. You can find it on Apple music.

The Ventures toured with him in the mid 60's, and obviously liked the melody.
Trini passed away in 2020 from the virus, was still performing and living with his wife in Dallas.

Perfidia or perfidy means betrayal. I won't speculate about that, it's just a traditional Mexican song.

Dalton · **Posted:** Oct Fri 28, 2022 3:18 am

westcoastjohn wrote:

Trini Lopez had that song in his repertoire before the Ventures did. You can find it on Apple music.

The Ventures toured with him in the mid 60's, and obviously liked the melody.
Trini passed away in 2020 from the virus, was still performing and living with his wife in Dallas.

Yes, I remember the news of his passing with sadness.

We lost a few fine performers.

Here's a 1941 version...

https://youtu.be/OUFFLkN1tW4

fifties · **Posted:** Oct Fri 28, 2022 5:22 am

westcoastjohn wrote:

Trini Lopez had that song in his repertoire before the Ventures did.

I'm not so sure about that. The Ventures version was released in November, 1960, debuting at #33;

Looking on the net, it seems the Trini Lopez version was on an album released in 1964.

https://www.boomplay.com/songs/3841648

Dalton · **Posted:** Oct Fri 28, 2022 10:43 am

fifties wrote:

westcoastjohn wrote:

Trini Lopez had that song in his repertoire before the Ventures did.

I'm not so sure about that. The Ventures version was released in November, 1960, debuting at #33;

Looking on the net, it seems the Trini Lopez version was on an album released in 1964.

https://www.boomplay.com/songs/3841648

Thanks, 50's.

Cool piece!

westcoastjohn · **Posted:** Oct Sat 29, 2022 8:12 pm

Thanks, Richard. Shows you can't just recreate history here.

The statement about Trini's repertoire could be true. He was performing folk songs in both English and Spanish for years before he landed the recording contract and got airplay with "If I Had a Hammer".

The idea that the Ventures learned the song during their 1964 or 5 tour was patently false, a pure fabrication from a festering mind.

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