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 Post subject: Perfidia
PostPosted: Oct Thu 20, 2022 3:21 am 
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Heard on NPR, Artist unknown.



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 Post subject: Re: Perfidia
PostPosted: Oct Thu 20, 2022 3:28 am 
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This is the version I remember, from 1960;
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pyUcnor ... ortmorien1

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 Post subject: Re: Perfidia
PostPosted: Oct Fri 21, 2022 12:32 am 
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fifties wrote:
This is the version I remember, from 1960;
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pyUcnor ... ortmorien1

Didn't we buy Ventures' albums just for the music?


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 Post subject: Re: Perfidia
PostPosted: Oct Fri 21, 2022 11:17 am 
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There's always the original Xavier Cugat hit version
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OUFFLkN1tW4

and the pretty Glenn Miller version
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LeFiCR9GUWg


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 Post subject: Re: Perfidia
PostPosted: Oct Wed 26, 2022 12:33 pm 
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fifties wrote:
This is the version I remember, from 1960;
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pyUcnor ... ortmorien1


The surf version! :D

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 Post subject: Re: Perfidia
PostPosted: Oct Wed 26, 2022 12:34 pm 
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Ken Doyle wrote:
There's always the original Xavier Cugat hit version
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OUFFLkN1tW4

and the pretty Glenn Miller version
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LeFiCR9GUWg


Thanks, Ken!

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 Post subject: Re: Perfidia
PostPosted: Oct Wed 26, 2022 12:35 pm 
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AuroraOldRadios wrote:
fifties wrote:
This is the version I remember, from 1960;
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pyUcnor ... ortmorien1

Didn't we buy Ventures' albums just for the music?


I remember! :D

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 Post subject: Re: Perfidia
PostPosted: Oct Fri 28, 2022 3:06 am 
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Trini Lopez had that song in his repertoire before the Ventures did. You can find it on Apple music.

The Ventures toured with him in the mid 60's, and obviously liked the melody.
Trini passed away in 2020 from the virus, was still performing and living with his wife in Dallas.

Perfidia or perfidy means betrayal. I won't speculate about that, it's just a traditional Mexican song.

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 Post subject: Re: Perfidia
PostPosted: Oct Fri 28, 2022 3:18 am 
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westcoastjohn wrote:
Trini Lopez had that song in his repertoire before the Ventures did. You can find it on Apple music.

The Ventures toured with him in the mid 60's, and obviously liked the melody.
Trini passed away in 2020 from the virus, was still performing and living with his wife in Dallas.


Yes, I remember the news of his passing with sadness.

We lost a few fine performers.

Here's a 1941 version...


https://youtu.be/OUFFLkN1tW4

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 Post subject: Re: Perfidia
PostPosted: Oct Fri 28, 2022 5:22 am 
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westcoastjohn wrote:
Trini Lopez had that song in his repertoire before the Ventures did.

I'm not so sure about that. The Ventures version was released in November, 1960, debuting at #33;

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Looking on the net, it seems the Trini Lopez version was on an album released in 1964.

https://www.boomplay.com/songs/3841648

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 Post subject: Re: Perfidia
PostPosted: Oct Fri 28, 2022 10:43 am 
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fifties wrote:
westcoastjohn wrote:
Trini Lopez had that song in his repertoire before the Ventures did.

I'm not so sure about that. The Ventures version was released in November, 1960, debuting at #33;

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Looking on the net, it seems the Trini Lopez version was on an album released in 1964.

https://www.boomplay.com/songs/3841648



Thanks, 50's.

Cool piece!

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 Post subject: Re: Perfidia
PostPosted: Oct Sat 29, 2022 8:12 pm 
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Thanks, Richard. Shows you can't just recreate history here. :D

The statement about Trini's repertoire could be true. He was performing folk songs in both English and Spanish for years before he landed the recording contract and got airplay with "If I Had a Hammer".

The idea that the Ventures learned the song during their 1964 or 5 tour was patently false, a pure fabrication from a festering mind. :x

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