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Post subject: Re: Hallicrafters SX25 restoration Posted: Nov Sun 01, 2020 8:12 pm |
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Post subject: Re: Hallicrafters SX25 restoration Posted: Nov Tue 03, 2020 2:54 am |
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Maple dial plate installed.
Works good on all bands. Working on a new antenna now.
Radio is 90% there. S meter still isn't working.
Sounds great. Next doing mica caps and install an audio input and speaker connector.
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Post subject: Re: Hallicrafters SX25 restoration Posted: Nov Tue 03, 2020 7:36 am |
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A note about my s meter. It seems to deflect slightly so if it is at 10db above s9 then it will rest there and then if I am on AM and get to a strong station it will go up to 20db above S9. It only works this way on band 1.
I am wondering if maybe my crap antenna is to blame. Maybe it just doesn't pull in a strong enough signal to move the meter!
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Post subject: Re: Hallicrafters SX25 restoration Posted: Nov Tue 03, 2020 7:45 am |
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I think you are correct. A good test is to apply a signal of known amplitude. The standard for a reading of S9 is 50 microvolts into 50 Ohms, or -73 dBm. The SX-25 may have a higher input impedance but we don't need to be overly accurate here.
Broadcast signals are often very strong.
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Post subject: Re: Hallicrafters SX25 restoration Posted: Nov Tue 03, 2020 2:05 pm |
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My SX-25 is a very strong receiver.
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Post subject: Re: Hallicrafters SX25 restoration Posted: Nov Mon 09, 2020 9:05 pm |
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Got my carol brand rg 11 u coax. super low loss, very stiff stuff. It is carrying my signal from both sides of my dipole to my radio.
Much cleaner signal now. But.....
These cheapo radio shack 1.2 watt resistors that i got a lot of on Ebay are not cutting it.
The high voltage is screwing them all up.
Going to replace all my resistors now especially those getting hit with over 50v with 2 watt or so military grade resistors.
Crappy that they are so hard to find now.
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Post subject: Re: Hallicrafters SX25 restoration Posted: Nov Mon 09, 2020 11:46 pm |
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I am not saying Radio Shack capacitors are bad but just for this application they are not the best.
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mrrstrat
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Post subject: Re: Hallicrafters SX25 restoration Posted: Nov Wed 11, 2020 2:09 pm |
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Try tubedepot.com as they have a great selection of HV stuff. They actually sell enough of caps and resistors that even DigiKey will list items they are selling on the DigiKey site. I have dealt with them for nearly 20 years and are great for resistors and common caps.
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Post subject: Re: Hallicrafters SX25 restoration Posted: Nov Wed 11, 2020 3:24 pm |
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Once working properly you will not be disappointed. It takes skill learning to use the xtal filter. But the Phone Xtal position works wonders with SSB, giving quite good single signal selectivity. What I did was play with xtal phase, BFO tuning and bandspread tuning, rocking the bandspread over a pure CW signal (actually an outboard calibrator) to get best performace for USB and LSB and marking the correct spots with tiny arrows of blue masking tape for USB and red masking tape for LSB, green for CW (in CW Xtal).
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Post subject: Re: Hallicrafters SX25 restoration Posted: Nov Thu 12, 2020 3:39 am |
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Thanks guys sounds good. Those tube depot resistors look much better priced than digikey and they have a nice selection.
I just received some russian resistors that were on Ebay I thought i would give a try.
I also got a diamond 24mm drill bit so I am going to put my audio in and speaker jacks soon.
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Post subject: Re: Hallicrafters SX25 restoration Posted: Nov Sun 22, 2020 1:56 am |
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Spent a few hours replacing most of the resistors on my SX 25 with 1% tolerance military grade resistors, I do believe these make a difference vs no name resistors. You really need some good quality especially under load.
I am getting some nice signals even though it has just been a few hrs.
I noticed a bunch of tiny bone capacitors wired to some of the tuners. Do these go bad? Any experiences from anyone?
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Post subject: Re: Hallicrafters SX25 restoration Posted: Nov Sun 29, 2020 1:33 am |
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Post subject: Re: Hallicrafters SX25 restoration Posted: Nov Sun 29, 2020 4:22 am |
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I have wanted to do this myself - I have not replaced caps in any of my sets IFs. Of course the IFs would need re-tuned with the caps so I would not think anything would get messed up as long as the nominal value is used. mk2020@ wrote: Howdy all. My latest bit of work on my SX25 is just done. Replaced most of the old mica capacitors with new dipped silver mica ones.
All get right to the bottom line. All were out of spec that I replaced some as much as 100 pf. Where I didn't have the correct capacitors I summed two in parallel to the value needed.
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Post subject: Re: Hallicrafters SX25 restoration Posted: Nov Mon 30, 2020 2:11 am |
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I have never calibrated a radio. I have a frequency generator. Do you just send a signal into the antenna and calibrate it that way?
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Post subject: Re: Hallicrafters SX25 restoration Posted: Dec Tue 01, 2020 2:03 am |
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Hi this might be a dumb question but oh well. When you are making adjustments to the radio for calibrating do you have both dials at zero?
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Post subject: Re: Hallicrafters SX25 restoration Posted: Dec Tue 01, 2020 4:13 am |
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The hallicrafters manual for that set has a pretty good step-by-step set of instructions for doing this.
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Post subject: Re: Hallicrafters SX25 restoration Posted: Dec Thu 03, 2020 3:30 pm |
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If you have a frequency generator is there an easier way to calibrate the radio. I also have an oscilloscope.
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mrrstrat
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Post subject: Re: Hallicrafters SX25 restoration Posted: Dec Thu 03, 2020 4:44 pm |
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The SX-25 is somewhat tame to align - the sticky point is aligning to the crystal as with any crystal filter radio. It took me a few times to get it right (I seem to need 2-4 times to get it where I am happy with it) - if you make it past the IF alignment then the rest of it is a cake walk. The instructions need to be followed to the T (somewhat) and I use elements of SAMs, Riders, and the Hallicrafters procedures depending on the radio.
Bare minimum you will need a signal generator and a VTVM (because of its sensitivity). A Fluke 87 like I have is less than desired as I found out: accuracy and precision are nice but sensitivity of small deflection changes seem to be king in getting a good alignment. A scope helped me with my SX-43 in getting all of the 10.7Mhz IF trimmers all agreeing and working together. I have not needed one with the SX-25. Also I bought a slick RMA antenna with BNC connectors and clips from some guy on eBay that builds them (KK4HXJ). I have many of his items and the dummy antenna is a great piece of gear to make an alignment easy.
I highly recommend using a frequency counter to do the alignment properly - keep in mind as I understand the IF/Crystal alignment process you must align to the crystal's variation from what it actually is to make the crystal and BFO action work as you want it to so strict 455Khz is off the table. My first set I ever worked on and aligned was a SX-43 and it was an uphill learning experience (the three day festival of the alignment ceremony). The SX-25 is along the same lines but not quite as bad. The frequency counter helped my keep the signal generator honest in the band alignment process - I cannot imagine working on a radio without a frequency counter somewhere in the equation.
Note that the 3A band is aligned specially (main dial AND band spread changes). The instructions are clear on what to do - otherwise the band spread needs to be set as per the instructions so the dial aligns to what you are doing. Watch for the sensitivity of the three trimmers for each band and the pad. I found that rocking the dial on the set to the trimmer and (not trimmer to the dial) is needed when it is so small of a change it is ninja expertise to turn it.
I can tell you that properly aligned the SX-25 is a downright amazing receiver in performance and sound!
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Post subject: Re: Hallicrafters SX25 restoration Posted: Dec Thu 03, 2020 6:29 pm |
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A few words to the wise:
1) have the set in the cabinet, with the bottom cover ON when you do the alignment. The trimmer settings will change markedly if you do it with the bottom cover off and put it back on later.
2) have the set warm up for a LONG time, like an hour, in the orientation that it will be used in. Then turn it up to access the trimmers on the bottom.
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Post subject: Re: Hallicrafters SX25 restoration Posted: Dec Fri 04, 2020 2:35 am |
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This is the best advise: I learned it the very hard way on both points. I did not realize how things drastically change once the set is in the case until I did some (careful) live experiments with my SX-43. I got to admit I was initially a little nervous sticking even an insulated screwdriver blindly into a 6mm hole into a device 75 years old with 340 volts in it. jim rozen wrote: A few words to the wise:
1) have the set in the cabinet, with the bottom cover ON when you do the alignment. The trimmer settings will change markedly if you do it with the bottom cover off and put it back on later.
2) have the set warm up for a LONG time, like an hour, in the orientation that it will be used in. Then turn it up to access the trimmers on the bottom.
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