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 Post subject: Lowering an Airline "movie dial" loop housing
PostPosted: Apr Wed 15, 2020 12:15 pm 
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I was recently made aware that the loop on my '37 Airline 62-418 is positioned high. Is there anything I should know before attempting to lower it a bit? I'm afraid to go near that strip for fear of damaging the film. If it requires a lot of effort I'll just leave it as is. I learned a long time ago, when your set is at 80%, STOP! Getting to 100% can quickly leave you at 0%! :D


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 Post subject: Re: Lowering an Airline "movie dial" loop housing
PostPosted: Apr Wed 15, 2020 1:42 pm 
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Rider 1938 • Montgomery Ward pages...
8-1 http://americanradiohistory.com/hd2/IDX ... e-0078.pdf
8-2 http://americanradiohistory.com/hd2/IDX ... e-0079.pdf
8-3 http://americanradiohistory.com/hd2/IDX ... e-0080.pdf
8-4 http://americanradiohistory.com/hd2/IDX ... e-0081.pdf

Photos, model 62-437 http://www.rfcafe.com/references/electr ... -radio.htm


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 Post subject: Re: Lowering an Airline "movie dial" loop housing
PostPosted: Apr Wed 15, 2020 1:45 pm 
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Excellent. Thank you very much. As long as nothing is stuck and needs to be forced I'll make the adjustment.


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 Post subject: Re: Lowering an Airline "movie dial" loop housing
PostPosted: Apr Wed 15, 2020 2:16 pm 
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:) Greg.


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 Post subject: Re: Lowering an Airline "movie dial" loop housing
PostPosted: Apr Wed 15, 2020 2:29 pm 
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Joe,
It looks like Greg has shot you what you need to know. I had noticed the alignment was off but did not want to rain on you parade so early. Please post and let us know how you make out.
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 Post subject: Re: Lowering an Airline "movie dial" loop housing
PostPosted: Apr Wed 15, 2020 5:25 pm 
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radiohenry wrote:
Joe,
It looks like Greg has shot you what you need to know. I had noticed the alignment was off but did not want to rain on you parade so early. Please post and let us know how you make out.
GL,
Henry

I only really noticed it recently. Now it seems so obvious. I'd like to take it off the shelf today, but I have to get permission from my back! It's heavy, especially when you have to lean in to get it. It's one of those "half-a-console" radios.


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 Post subject: Re: Lowering an Airline "movie dial" loop housing
PostPosted: Apr Thu 16, 2020 10:39 am 
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I just wanted to complete this thread by saying I did make adjustments on the movie dial. My conclusion? If your imagine looks decent, LEAVE IT ALONE.
First lesson I learned was that if you max out the left-to-right mirror adjustment, you will stress and crack it. It's thin. I had to take the part out and recut a new mirror. It was a PITA! After cleaning whatever I could and lubing here and there, I was disappointed to see that the image was no better than at the start. In fact I would say it slightly worse. The thing I could've figure out was that you could easily focus the imagine with the rod, but the edges of the imagine remain fuzzy. Also the annoying slight tilt of the imagine could not be rectified. I came to the assumption that film may not be perfectly flat anymore. I got it looking decent, buttoned it up, and called it done.
Also - there's a metal sheet under the chassis attached to the back of the chassis with a screw. If you remove the bolts and wonder why the chassis feels like it's snagging on something, you'll know what it is! I ended up working on the set for about 4 hours.


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 Post subject: Re: Lowering an Airline "movie dial" loop housing
PostPosted: Apr Thu 16, 2020 9:25 pm 
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Could you correct the tilt by adjusting the chassis height on one side?
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 Post subject: Re: Lowering an Airline "movie dial" loop housing
PostPosted: Apr Fri 17, 2020 12:31 am 
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radiohenry wrote:
Could you correct the tilt by adjusting the chassis height on one side?
Henry

No, it actually needs some inner adjustment. I just had the radio on and it really looks pretty good. I just wish I could've gotten the eastern top part of loop showing up more and clearer. The center central section is clear as a bell. I don't plan on making any further attempts. I would not want to slip and accidently put a screw driver through the film strip. An issue with the chassis is that it sat on soft thick spacers that disintegrate. Trying to replicate that just right is frustrating. When I swap-out the grill cloth I'm going to improve on what's there.


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 Post subject: Re: Lowering an Airline "movie dial" loop housing
PostPosted: Apr Sat 18, 2020 8:02 pm 
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I tweaked the projector the best I could, swapped out the grill cloth, and I'm calling it done. Actually the projection is fairly bright, in focus, and shows the three zones fairly well. The very top is cut off, but I'm satisfied.


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I'm pretty sure Ed makes the rubber parts for those;

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 Post subject: Re: Lowering an Airline "movie dial" loop housing
PostPosted: Apr Sat 18, 2020 10:48 pm 
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It looks great Joe.

Have you still got gas lighting in The Big Apple... :)

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 Post subject: Re: Lowering an Airline "movie dial" loop housing
PostPosted: Apr Sun 19, 2020 1:48 am 
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egg wrote:
It looks great Joe.

Have you still got gas lighting in The Big Apple... :)

Greg.

Thanks Greg. I didn't use flash to show the imagine on screen. The other day I turned on the set in a bright sunny room and I thought the bulb burned out! It washes out the screen completely. To enjoy it, you need a dimly lit room and look at the screen directly.


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 Post subject: Re: Lowering an Airline "movie dial" loop housing
PostPosted: Apr Sun 19, 2020 12:44 pm 
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Here's a photo of the set with a flash:


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 Post subject: Re: Lowering an Airline "movie dial" loop housing
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All I can say is you are a genius...You done an excellent restoration of
probably the most complicated and mechanical plus electrical radios
ever made... I have seen several on ebay but never one with both cabinet
and chassis. I seen one very badly damaged at a flea market last summer,
but figured it was way beyond my experience. By the way, the guy wanted $50.
for it :roll:
That was an excellent read you posted on your restoration :!:

Gary


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 Post subject: Re: Lowering an Airline "movie dial" loop housing
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Gary T. Lane wrote:
All I can say is you are a genius...You done an excellent restoration of
probably the most complicated and mechanical plus electrical radios
ever made... I have seen several on ebay but never one with both cabinet
and chassis. I seen one very badly damaged at a flea market last summer,
but figured it was way beyond my experience. By the way, the guy wanted $50.
for it :roll:
That was an excellent read you posted on your restoration :!:

Gary

You flatter me Gary, but, honestly, I didn't have to do a whole lot to it. The chassis had been recapped, but just needed the usual lubrication and cleaning. With the help of egg's post with the projection unit diagram, adjustments there were fairly simple. The cabinet just required a cleaning and application of Howards products and a new piece of grill cloth. Luckily it all the proper wooden "acorn" knobs. There isn't much information on these sets, so I hope this will give a little insight down the road to another collector.
There's not a whole lot of the tabletop models around. In my nearly 40 years of collecting, this is the first chance I've had to acquire one locally. I would not want to have one of these large and heavy units shipped. This one was in a friends collection for many, many years.


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 Post subject: Re: Lowering an Airline "movie dial" loop housing
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They are not an easy ship either. I have had one or two that the speaker tore away from it's mounting in transit . Luckily the front of the chassis kept the speaker from slashing around doing more damage.
Henry


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