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 Post subject: Howard's restore A Finish question
PostPosted: Aug Wed 15, 2018 10:32 pm 
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I've used this product many time with great results, but on one of my last cabinets, I guess I used a color that turned the two toned front of the cabinet a bit darker than I'd like. Does anyone know if I can remove the Howard's from the front of the cabinet and start that step over with a lighter color? Will GoJo take it off cleanly? Thanks!


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 Post subject: Re: Howard's restore A Finish question
PostPosted: Aug Wed 15, 2018 11:14 pm 
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What I've noticed, time makes Howard's disappear.
It looks nice for a while, then the finish fades back to its former self.
Perhaps, if it is not too bad, just leave it alone.
Try Go-Jo first.
Other than that, mineral spirits is the safest bet to remove the stuff.
Let us know!

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 Post subject: Re: Howard's restore A Finish question
PostPosted: Aug Thu 16, 2018 9:25 pm 
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Mark,
So far, I haven't seen the fading of a Howard's job that's been done for a couple of years or more. Maybe it takes a little longer than that. I would've thought with as many guys using their products on this board, I would've had a bit more input on their results taking a reasonably fresh coat of Howard's off. Guess I'll just experiment a bit. Thanks for your help, Mark.
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 Post subject: Re: Howard's restore A Finish question
PostPosted: Aug Fri 17, 2018 12:04 am 
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kc5gym wrote:
What I've noticed, time makes Howard's disappear.
It looks nice for a while, then the finish fades back to its former self.
Perhaps, if it is not too bad, just leave it alone.
Try Go-Jo first.
Other than that, mineral spirits is the safest bet to remove the stuff.
Let us know!

Is that with paste was on top?


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 Post subject: Re: Howard's restore A Finish question
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I read here a few years ago that Howards can only be removed by sanding... haven't confirmed it myself

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 Post subject: Re: Howard's restore A Finish question
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Recently I bought a can of Howard's Restore-A-Finish Neutral. I had a cabinet that I didn't want darker. It worked really well. Maybe if you tried using that, it might remove some of the darkness.


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 Post subject: Re: Howard's restore A Finish question
PostPosted: Sep Tue 18, 2018 3:57 pm 
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I have to get some of that for a cabinet I’m doing now. I’ll try that. Thanks.


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 Post subject: Re: Howard's restore A Finish question
PostPosted: Sep Wed 19, 2018 1:26 am 
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What I've noticed, time makes Howard's disappear.
It looks nice for a while, then the finish fades back to its former self.

I am not backing completely out of this statement, just be aware, it is a cover up.
Check out this link: https://www.waxdepot.com/mm5/merchant.m ... Code=RAFAQ
Maybe it will help.
edit: the link doesn't work with my security settings(?) just google howards restor a finish

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 Post subject: Re: Howard's restore A Finish question
PostPosted: Sep Thu 20, 2018 3:25 am 
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divad41 wrote:
I read here a few years ago that Howards can only be removed by sanding... haven't confirmed it myself

Mineral sprits will, take it right off.


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 Post subject: Re: Howard's restore A Finish question
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I tried Howards on one radio and thought it was bad news. Tried it on another radio and it came out so good I am stunned. It does not work when finish color is missing. But on a dry old wood cabinet that still has the color intact it worked wonders.


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 Post subject: Re: Howard's restore A Finish question
PostPosted: Sep Wed 26, 2018 3:21 pm 
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You just have to be careful if/when you ever want to apply a coat of another product over the Howards. Any time I have attempted to later top coat over a radio that had been treated with howards it was fish-eye central. Howards says in the fine print of their directions to never apply another product over it as a top coat.


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 Post subject: Re: Howard's restore A Finish question
PostPosted: Sep Sat 29, 2018 3:36 pm 
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The only thing you can really apply over Howards is wax.

Howards is nothing more than a product to make scratches and other blemishes less obvious. Several other products and methods do the same thing.

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 Post subject: Re: Howard's restore A Finish question
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zenith82 wrote:
The only thing you can really apply over Howards is wax.

Howards is nothing more than a product to make scratches and other blemishes less obvious. Several other products and methods do the same thing.

I use it all the time, but I have to agree with that.
You get the best results with Howards when you're dealing with an already good original finish that's just covered with scuffs, light scratches and fade. It does very little to nothing for a really poor finish where much of the clear coat is gone. I like going over the finish with Howards and fine steel wool. It cleans, smooths, and really wakes-up a tired, dirty finish. I finish with the Beeswax, and then a light mist of furniture polish and a cheesecloth buffing. The results are a rich glow that lasts a long time.
To answer the question though, as dark as the Walnut/Mohogany selections are, they do not deeply stain the finish. It's very minimal. I've even had it touch paper labels that I thought I ruined, but it eventually lightened right back to where it was. If it does that with paper, you know it's going to do that with wood.


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 Post subject: Re: Howard's restore A Finish question
PostPosted: Sep Sun 30, 2018 10:32 pm 
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decojoe67 wrote:
zenith82 wrote:
The only thing you can really apply over Howards is wax.

Howards is nothing more than a product to make scratches and other blemishes less obvious. Several other products and methods do the same thing.

I use it all the time, but I have to agree with that.
You get the best results with Howards when you're dealing with an already good original finish that's just covered with scuffs, light scratches and fade. It does very little to nothing for a really poor finish where much of the clear coat is gone. I like going over the finish with Howards and fine steel wool. It cleans, smooths, and really wakes-up a tired, dirty finish. I finish with the Beeswax, and then a light mist of furniture polish and a cheesecloth buffing. The results are a rich glow that lasts a long time.
To answer the question though, as dark as the Walnut/Mohogany selections are, they do not deeply stain the finish. It's very minimal. I've even had it touch paper labels that I thought I ruined, but it eventually lightened right back to where it was. If it does that with paper, you know it's going to do that with wood.


Joe,
I agree that it is a product to help an old finish brighten a bit again, not replace a missing finish. It seems to do real well at covering small scratches, etc. Just like many other products on the market to do any number of things, there are those that like how those products work and those that don't. For Howard's, as of now, I'm a "those that do" person...


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