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 Post subject: Cleaning Bakelite Cabinets
PostPosted: Feb Mon 11, 2019 3:19 pm 
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What is the best way to clean smoke residue off Bakelite radio cabinets?

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 Post subject: Re: Cleaning Bakelite Cabinets
PostPosted: Feb Mon 11, 2019 3:23 pm 
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Dab some GoJo on a spot and see if that takes it off. Before you try anything harsh that might dull the finish. I think some of the bakelite in radio cabinets somehow deteriorates or oxidizes or something like that. Then when you wipe them down stuff comes off that resembles smoke residue but is apparently the material itself.

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 Post subject: Re: Cleaning Bakelite Cabinets
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 Post subject: Re: Cleaning Bakelite Cabinets
PostPosted: Feb Mon 11, 2019 5:24 pm 
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In some environs the surface of the bakelite decomposes or oxidizes. This is not necessarily a loss, as I have been able to bring back the finish to original looking by rubbing with Chrome Cleaner or Brasso (not the older formula's, but the new fine consistency formula's). A final treatment with automotive polish completes the process.


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 Post subject: Re: Cleaning Bakelite Cabinets
PostPosted: Feb Mon 11, 2019 5:49 pm 
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Dab some GoJo on a spot and see if that takes it off. Before you try anything harsh that might dull the finish. I think some of the bakelite in radio cabinets somehow deteriorates or oxidizes or something like that. Then when you wipe them down stuff comes off that resembles smoke residue but is apparently the material itself.

+1 to above comments by wazz, I agree with him completely. If you use anything harsh or abrasive, you may find a brown residue coming off which you might think is smoke, nicotine or dirt. In reality it may be the upper (smooth) layer of the bakelite itself.

I would advise an initial cleaning of any bakelite cabinet in warm soapy water using only liquid Dawn or some other similar mild product and a soft rag or sponge. Then let it dry and evaluate it to see if more aggressive methods are needed. In my experience, most Bakelite cabinets after an initial cleaning with liquid Dawn can be followed up with a couple of coats of traditional SC Johnson Furniture Paste Wax, followed by buffing with a soft cloth, with excellent results.

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 Post subject: Re: Cleaning Bakelite Cabinets
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With bakelite I find its best to avoid using ANY cleaners on them unless its absolutely filthy. I generally use Meguier's cleaner caranuba car wax. That will usually remove most grime and also preserve the finish


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 Post subject: Re: Cleaning Bakelite Cabinets
PostPosted: Feb Mon 11, 2019 8:31 pm 
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Thanks to all, Dawn it is and then car polish/wax


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 Post subject: Re: Cleaning Bakelite Cabinets
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OK. Well with the Gojo I tried on several bakelites, it seemed to clean and also left a bit of a shine on the cabinet to boot. I am not sure that the shine will last a year or five though. I have had cases that were dull to begin with and nothing helped much. Although I don't suppose I tried wax but can't remember.

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 Post subject: Re: Cleaning Bakelite Cabinets
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I exclusively collect bakelite sets. I use the white soft soap ivory and then polish with the spray on car wax that comes in the red wine colored spray bottle.

below are a few examples.

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 Post subject: Re: Cleaning Bakelite Cabinets
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and then polish with the spray on car wax that comes in the red wine colored spray bottle.

Name brand please? I'd like to try it.

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 Post subject: Re: Cleaning Bakelite Cabinets
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ok, i will look later.

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 Post subject: Re: Cleaning Bakelite Cabinets
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Dutch Rabbit wrote:
and then polish with the spray on car wax that comes in the red wine colored spray bottle.

Name brand please? I'd like to try it.


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 Post subject: Re: Cleaning Bakelite Cabinets
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Does it contain silicone?


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 Post subject: Re: Cleaning Bakelite Cabinets
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Does it contain silicone?
Yes, in a compound:

SDS for M66, Quick Detailer (21-141A): M6601

Ingredient: Polydimethylsiloxane

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 Post subject: Re: Cleaning Bakelite Cabinets
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thanks, that answers that.

the bottle was put back in the garage earlier today after its photo shoot.

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 Post subject: Re: Cleaning Bakelite Cabinets
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So is there a downside because of the ingredient in it?

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 Post subject: Re: Cleaning Bakelite Cabinets
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fifties wrote:
So is there a downside because of the ingredient in it?

i would like to know this as well.

i've never experienced a problem. i've used it for years.

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 Post subject: Re: Cleaning Bakelite Cabinets
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I don't think the silicone has any adverse effect provided you don't want to paint the bakelite.

Nobody mentioned Metal Armor. I have used this on quite a few bakelite items with great success. It contains an extremely fine abrasive that polishes the surface of the bakelite. Even No. 7 auto polish works good. After the polishing, I use a coat of paste wax. Cleaning and waxing alone can't produce the shine from using a polish then wax. Bakelite knobs and escutcheons go into my vibratory tumbler which is crushed walnut shells and polishing rouge. They come out high gloss.

And a big thumbs up to Bob's mention of Meguier's cleaner caranuba car wax, the stuff is excellent, and yes, it does contain a fine clay in the wax to provide the cleaning action.

Disclaimer:
Test a small area with whatever you decide to use first. Some bakelite's are degraded to the point where you can no longer polish.


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Dutch Rabbit wrote:
I exclusively collect bakelite sets. I use the white soft soap ivory and then polish with the spray on car wax that comes in the red wine colored spray bottle.

below are a few examples.

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And a big thumbs up to Bob's mention of Meguier's cleaner caranuba car wax, the stuff is excellent, and yes, it does contain a fine clay in the wax to provide the cleaning action.



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I generally use Meguier's cleaner caranuba car wax. That will usually remove most grime and also preserve the finish


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