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 Post subject: Zenith 8s463 photo finish patchwork
PostPosted: Aug Mon 26, 2019 5:05 pm 
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Hello all, I picked up this Zenith console this weekend. Over all it is in excellent condition. I got it working and sounding great with little work. I know these are notorious for the photofinish. I took this into consideration when purchasing the set, and upon inspecting it I did not see any major flaws with the photofinish. There are a few nicks, and spots missing. I am curious if anyone has experience patching this type of photofinish? I read another thread on this forum mentioning painting in the missing spots. How would go about this? What are the general do's and don'ts pertaining to these photofinish Zeniths?


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 Post subject: Re: Zenith 8s463 photo finish patchwork
PostPosted: Aug Tue 27, 2019 4:38 am 
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The goal should be to minimize the damage so that the eye isn't attracted to it, rather than repaint large areas to imitate was is underneath the patch. This is the approach that art conservators take.

The steps are:
Clean the surface.
Seal the surface.
Fill the missing finish areas so they're flush.
Color the spots to match the surrounding area.
Apply a clear coat over everything.

Here's how a professional conserves paintings:
https://youtu.be/Kznj1NZN90A


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 Post subject: Re: Zenith 8s463 photo finish patchwork
PostPosted: Aug Tue 27, 2019 3:32 pm 
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If the patches of damage are too large to conceal with artistry then the other path commonly followed is to strip all the photo finish off and apply new veneer with a similar grain in place of the old photofinish decal...it is a lot of work though and is why many collectors avoid damaged photo finish sets.


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 Post subject: Re: Zenith 8s463 photo finish patchwork
PostPosted: Aug Tue 27, 2019 6:28 pm 
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Alan Voorhees wrote:

Here's how a professional conserves paintings:
https://youtu.be/Kznj1NZN90A


I'll second this. Take the time to watch a few Baumgartner Restorations videos. I'm always amazed at his artistry and craftsmanship.


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 Post subject: Re: Zenith 8s463 photo finish patchwork
PostPosted: Aug Wed 28, 2019 3:56 am 
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Watch the narrated ones to follow what processes he uses.


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 Post subject: Re: Zenith 8s463 photo finish patchwork
PostPosted: Aug Wed 28, 2019 4:36 am 
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For small nicks and scratches, I simply use a "repair marker". Actually got mine at the Dollar store, just three colors, but they work fine for small areas;
https://www.amazon.com/Rejuvenate-Furni ... 7834&psc=1

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 Post subject: Re: Zenith 8s463 photo finish patchwork
PostPosted: Sep Wed 04, 2019 9:11 am 
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I didn't pick up from the video what the filling medium was? I too have some photo finish that has a few nicks: at the moment I have just coloured them. Would be nice to have them level but nothing I have fills easy and all would need sanding which is a No! No!.

thanks Gary


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 Post subject: Re: Zenith 8s463 photo finish patchwork
PostPosted: Sep Wed 04, 2019 7:22 pm 
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I read in the Super Glue thread where using that and Baking Soda allegedly makes a good filler material.

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 Post subject: Re: Zenith 8s463 photo finish patchwork
PostPosted: Sep Thu 05, 2019 9:02 am 
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Yes! but a Super Glue mix isn't going to come off with a Cotton Bud like he uses !! No way am I going to sand that paper.

Decided that my dents aren't that bad so just going to leave them.

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 Post subject: Re: Zenith 8s463 photo finish patchwork
PostPosted: Sep Thu 05, 2019 6:46 pm 
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Gary, any filler that one uses is going to require sanding. In the case of Photo Finish, I would agree that the best course of action would be to simply try to color a scrape to match, and not worry about filling it in.

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