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 Post subject: FOUND dETROLA model 193 t2 cabinet
PostPosted: Jan Sun 12, 2020 12:36 am 
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Looking for information on how much it would cost to repair this cabinet if it was to be sent for repair?


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 Post subject: Re: dETROLA model 193 t2 cabinet
PostPosted: Jan Sun 12, 2020 1:03 am 
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Pictures are too small, I can't tell what I'm looking at.


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 Post subject: Re: dETROLA model 193 t2 cabinet
PostPosted: Jan Sun 12, 2020 1:21 am 
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That is the best pictures I can get. The first picture shows a vertical crack down from the corner and the same in second but not has bad. Also a horizontal crack on top . Better question might how much to do all new veneer on front and sides and some glue work to frame? Just looking for a ball park.


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 Post subject: Re: dETROLA model 193 t2 cabinet
PostPosted: Jan Thu 16, 2020 9:40 am 
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£300 + in the UK but finding someone who can do a good job is hard. Most have gone or retired.

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 Post subject: Re: dETROLA model 193 t2 cabinet
PostPosted: Jan Thu 16, 2020 11:15 am 
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Do you think that this damage was done by being dropped after it was unpacked or could it have been done with it double boxed. The radio was first wrapped all around in bubble wrap about 2 inches thick and taped very well and then put in a box that was then lined around with more bubble wrap . Then this box was put in a box that was lined with 1 inch Styrofoam with bubble wrap between the box and Styrofoam. Thanks


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 Post subject: Re: dETROLA model 193 t2 cabinet
PostPosted: Jan Thu 16, 2020 1:08 pm 
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To me that sounds like a good piece of packing. You couldn't expect better, certainly in the UK.

Maybe it was like that when packed?

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 Post subject: Re: dETROLA model 193 t2 cabinet
PostPosted: Jan Thu 16, 2020 1:13 pm 
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No it was not since I was the sender. But I have been told it was done in shipping but no damage to the box.


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 Post subject: Re: dETROLA model 193 t2 cabinet
PostPosted: Jan Thu 16, 2020 1:28 pm 
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Oh! sad. You did a good job on the packing I think. Sometimes packing can be too tight and possibly not isolate the radio from shock. Strange the packing doesn't some wounds.

Tend to think it may have been done after it was unpacked but nothing you can do about that most likely.

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 Post subject: Re: dETROLA model 193 t2 cabinet
PostPosted: Jan Thu 16, 2020 2:02 pm 
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I totally agree it was done after but no proof and worse again ebay buyer protect is not in your favor nor did the insurance on the package either


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 Post subject: Re: dETROLA model 193 t2 cabinet
PostPosted: Jan Fri 17, 2020 11:29 am 
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Was going to lock but would like to see more opinions


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 Post subject: Re: FOUND dETROLA model 193 t2 cabinet
PostPosted: Jan Fri 17, 2020 7:21 pm 
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The push-pull 42 tube audio output is very interesting in a table top radio. However, after cabinet repair costs you may not recover your investment.


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 Post subject: Re: FOUND dETROLA model 193 t2 cabinet
PostPosted: Jan Sat 18, 2020 1:18 am 
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jimbenedict wrote:
The push-pull 42 tube audio output is very interesting in a table top radio. However, after cabinet repair costs you may not recover your investment.


Detrola T2 Egyptian sets sell in the $3,000 to $4,000 range if properly restored. Hundreds of
common sets used P-P audio stages. His investment is not at risk.

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 Post subject: Re: FOUND dETROLA model 193 t2 cabinet
PostPosted: Jan Sat 18, 2020 8:31 am 
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jimbenedict wrote: The push-pull 42 tube audio output is very interesting in a table top radio. However, after cabinet repair costs you may not recover your investment.

spsquires is asking about a radio that he has sold.

Greg.
buddy, if you are still reading, get your radio back.
The buyer may be pulling a fast one.
Those tiny thumbnail photos are too small, they could even be Photoshopped!

The description of your packaging sounds good.


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 Post subject: Re: FOUND dETROLA model 193 t2 cabinet
PostPosted: Jan Sat 18, 2020 10:47 am 
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Well I asked for some bigger photos to confirm damage since the cabinet was all done before it was sent and I would be able to see any marks from being dropped or anything and he said he was done with that since he did send some also to Canada post to try to get my insurance on it and that was declined. I then made a partial refund offer and he declined and since ebay seems to side with the buyer all the time in my opinion I then asked for the radio back and he then came back and accepted the offer I made but deal is still not done.


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 Post subject: Re: FOUND dETROLA model 193 t2 cabinet
PostPosted: Jan Sat 18, 2020 4:33 pm 
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Peter Bertini wrote:
jimbenedict wrote:
The push-pull 42 tube audio output is very interesting in a table top radio. However, after cabinet repair costs you may not recover your investment.


Detrola T2 Egyptian sets sell in the $3,000 to $4,000 range if properly restored. Hundreds of
common sets used P-P audio stages. His investment is not at risk.

Never realize the radio was worth that much. Wonder why?


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 Post subject: Re: FOUND dETROLA model 193 t2 cabinet
PostPosted: Jan Sat 18, 2020 4:48 pm 
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Collectors like the style, have the money, and want the radio... same for the Zenith Walton tombstone...
another overpriced relic that collectors drool over. I always wanted a Detrola T2, but never jumped
on them when they were selling for a lot less. They are a pretty radio.

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 Post subject: Re: FOUND dETROLA model 193 t2 cabinet
PostPosted: Jan Sat 18, 2020 8:14 pm 
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Veneer wrapped over edges can crack due to changes in temp or humidity, which could happen when shipping in the winter.

Any chance it did crack in shipping, but due to the environment, not due to mishandling?

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 Post subject: Re: FOUND dETROLA model 193 t2 cabinet
PostPosted: Jan Sat 18, 2020 8:38 pm 
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So you saying it was the temperature change during shipping but not mishandled ?


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 Post subject: Re: FOUND dETROLA model 193 t2 cabinet
PostPosted: Jan Sat 18, 2020 10:46 pm 
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It seems possible to me. Humidity more likely than temp, but both play a roll.

I didn't see the cabinet before or after shipping, nor do I know what condition it was in before. And those photos are not very helpful.

Another possibility: If someone was buying a "good condition" cabinet, it's a guess they had a poor condition cabinet they wanted to replace. Have you received photos of high-enough quality to convince yourself that the photos are of the same cabinet you sent? They're so tiny, and so zoomed in to just a corner.. If that's all you have, I would be suspect they are not even photos of the same cabinet.

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 Post subject: Re: FOUND dETROLA model 193 t2 cabinet
PostPosted: Jan Sat 18, 2020 11:35 pm 
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Here is cabinet before sent.


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