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 Post subject: KIWI no buff cream for Tolex
PostPosted: Oct Sun 27, 2019 1:41 am 
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I tried a tube of this product and was really pleased how it worked on my '49 Emerson Tolex covered portable TV. In comes in colors. I first used brown, but then also bought black and neutral so I could even do a mix if need be. It's a nearly liquid creamy texture that goes on smoothly and instantly gives new life to the old faded Tolex. They say there's no buffing needed, but I buffed it out anyway. It firsts gets tacky, and then as you wipe it with a clean cloth and it dries, it begins to get smooth with a nice mellow shine. I'm going to do all my Tolex portables with it. I'm especially looking forward to use it on my Transoceanics. It has a pleasant odor too.


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 Post subject: Re: KIWI no buff cream for Tolex
PostPosted: Oct Sun 27, 2019 1:55 am 
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Literally just polished out this Transoceanic!

Great stuff... I use the standard polish.. It dries a bit harder than the soft stuff.


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 Post subject: Re: KIWI no buff cream for Tolex
PostPosted: Oct Sun 27, 2019 2:00 am 
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Nice job Kirk! I like the cream better because it really soaks into the Tolex and, if it has rough spots, it just glides over it. You don't need to use pressure.
I'm thinking that on faded bakelite this cream wouldn't require as much elbow grease as the paste. I have to try that too.


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 Post subject: Re: KIWI no buff cream for Tolex
PostPosted: Oct Sun 27, 2019 2:59 am 
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SWEET!

Finally a one step product that works on T.O. and their look a-likes!

I have not treated any of mine because I could not find anything that had positive reviews!

Thanks Friends!


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 Post subject: Re: KIWI no buff cream for Tolex
PostPosted: Oct Sun 27, 2019 2:31 pm 
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Chas wrote:
SWEET!

Finally a one step product that works on T.O. and their look a-likes!

I have not treated any of mine because I could not find anything that had positive reviews!

Thanks Friends!


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You're welcome. I should add that I found it not to have that smudgy/greasiness that the regular Kiwi paste wax leaves that requires lots of elbow grease to polish out. This polishes out quickly with no residue.


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 Post subject: Re: KIWI no buff cream for Tolex
PostPosted: Oct Sun 27, 2019 4:39 pm 
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Yeah,
The wax takes some polishing but it is very easy. The application is a simple light coat wipe down. Wait 24 hours and just shine it like your dress shoes. :) I agree that yours is great for rough spots and hiding issues. The wax is more for polishing a good pre-existing cloth covering.

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 Post subject: Re: KIWI no buff cream for Tolex
PostPosted: Oct Mon 28, 2019 7:24 am 
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decojoe67 wrote:
... I found it not to have that smudgy/greasiness that the regular Kiwi paste wax leaves that requires lots of elbow grease to polish out. ...

Anytime it's hard to polish out wax, it's because you used too much of it. Unless you are working with a very thin layer, the solvents won't evaporate easily.


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 Post subject: Re: KIWI no buff cream for Tolex
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Curiosity makes me ask. Should grime, dirt and that white (what looks like mold) be removed first? What to use to remove? I have, on occasion used Murphy's Oil Soap (diluted) on a dampened rag to clean-up the "Tolex". Followed by a clean dampened rag. Then done nothing further as far as waxing or other treatment. It there a better choice for a preliminary cleaner that is a no risk for the KIWI treatment?

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 Post subject: Re: KIWI no buff cream for Tolex
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Chas wrote:
Curiosity makes me ask. Should grime, dirt and that white (what looks like mold) be removed first? What to use to remove? I have, on occasion used Murphy's Oil Soap (diluted) on a dampened rag to clean-up the "Tolex". Followed by a clean dampened rag. Then done nothing further as far as waxing or other treatment. It there a better choice for a preliminary cleaner that is a no risk for the KIWI treatment?

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My favorite is pumice-free (very important) Goop hand cleaner. Smear it on, leave it for a little while, then ring a towel out in hot water (not so hot as to scald yourself naturally) and wipe off. I keep rinsing the towel over and over again in hot water and wiping. That will take most of the grime off. There are ways to deeply clean Tolex, but I'm hesitant to try them. I like a little patina, and you have to watch out that you don't wear-out the old Tolex, especially on the weak spots.


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 Post subject: Re: KIWI no buff cream for Tolex
PostPosted: Oct Mon 28, 2019 4:17 pm 
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Definitely agree with Alan,
The application has to be thin so that it dries and attaches. I usually wax and then wait a day. A few hours is more than enough and you can do multiple coats.

I also use GoJo/Goop but with #0000 steel wool (LIGHTLY!). Cleans it very nicely. Then you can add the paste or cream.

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 Post subject: Re: KIWI no buff cream for Tolex
PostPosted: Nov Tue 26, 2019 3:05 pm 
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On Tolex and 1920's rubber horn speakers I use Doc Baileys (or similar) leather black. I usually get it at a local Harley Dealer. First clean the Tolex or horn. Then apply the Doc Baileys and I usually let it dry overnight. Then a quick buff with a rag. The Doc Baileys not only conditions but has dye in it. The two horns I've done, and my Zenith TO both looked like new when done. It does not smudge when handled like shoe polish.


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