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 Post subject: Re: Are covers of popular songs ever as good as the original
PostPosted: Jul Wed 14, 2021 10:22 pm 
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Very good John. lol


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Watch 3:39 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SKkbxa1n068


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 Post subject: Re: Are covers of popular songs ever as good as the original
PostPosted: Jul Wed 14, 2021 11:41 pm 
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Pbpix wrote:
i guess one of the most significant examples is
" I will always love you"
Dolly Paton ( who wrote it )... her version compared to the great rearrangement for Whitney Houston

you really can't ever compare them... each has its own unique values... but Houston's version is "better" .... to me.


I like my original post about those artists and that song from the bottom of page 1 much better than your cover of it on page 3. :D


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 Post subject: Re: Are covers of popular songs ever as good as the original
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Did we answer the question? I think Yes.

Is the Aretha Franklin "I Say a Little Prayer" not equal to the original version by Dionne Warwick, aunt of Whitney ( thnx, ZR! )? Many popular songs are covers, when you think about it.

Canadian singer, songwriter and producer Ian Thomas recorded "Hold On" in 1981. Listen for cool bass chops after Ian sings the high part.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MhKkDM47I_g

The 1982 Santana cover stays true to the original, same tempo and intro, a bit more soulful but changes are subtle. Carlos holds back his signature guitar licks until the final bars, well done. Google it. Cheers.

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 Post subject: Re: Are covers of popular songs ever as good as the original
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Whitney Houston's mother's name was Cissy Houston. Dionne Warwick was her aunt. I like both versions, but Dionne's I like the best.


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 Post subject: Re: Are covers of popular songs ever as good as the original
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Sometimes it isn't so much that a cover is better or worse, it's just that some have an interesting vibe to them. We all know the Kingsmen's version of "Louie Louie" but there's something irresistible about the Toots & The Maytals version.
Louie, Louie is a good example of how a band can do a cover and "make it their own." I suspect very few people realize Louie, Louie was first written and performed in 1957 by Richard Berry (not related to Chuck):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z-2CKsaq5r8

Personally I'm on the fence with cover songs, but aside from Louie, Louie, in most cases I usually prefer the original.

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Canned Heat did a pretty good, but seldom heard, cover of Wooly Bully.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_byLRTDY8_E


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I personally have Neil Diamond's cover of Mr. Bojangles along with Nitty Gritty Dirt Band's cover, of Jerry Jeff Walker's song. Out of the three I think Diamonds is the best!


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How about Aretha's cover of 96 Tears?!


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I've never heard that version before today, and while I like Aretha, I can't say I care for that cover.

It's hard to beat the original version by Question Mark & The Mysterians. I still consider it one of my favorite songs:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R7uC5m-IRns

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 Post subject: Re: Are covers of popular songs ever as good as the original
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Entirely subjective question. For me, covers are usually nowhere near as good but there are a few notable exceptions.

I find the mixing of the car horn effect in the original "Hot Rod Lincoln" to be obnoxious and very annoying: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AcCj4ogE-m8. The Commander Cody version is an improvement, but I much prefer the Asleep at the Wheel cover: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XcNN2lSjcTg

I don't like this song at all but I think Keith Urban's cover of "Jeans On" (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ugCN9fhWnYc) is a lot better and more fitting than the original by David Dundas (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vwGlhKcEBjY)

Jackson Browne wrote "Take it Easy" but the Eagles recorded it before he did, so I'm not sure whose version is the cover lol. While I prefer Jackson's version, the Eagles did it well and it's just...a little different.

I think the Eagles conquered "Midnight Flyer" over the Osborne Brothers.

I don't like the Zac Brown Band at all, but they covered Elton John's "Harmony" very well.

Burton Cummings covered BTO's "You Ain't Seen Nothing Yet" and I would have said it was better except he had to throw in a vocal interlude of what I can only assume is him wringing the neck of a duck. I had to edit that out and replace the song in my library with my edited mp3.

On a final note, Raffi covered Octopus's Garden just a few years before I was born. I grew up with that version for 10 to 15 years before I heard the original by the Beatles. Objectively speaking the Beatles did the better version but I'll fight anyone who agrees with that :lol:


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 Post subject: Re: Are covers of popular songs ever as good as the original
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svcraig wrote:
Entirely subjective question. For me, covers are usually nowhere near as good but there are a few notable exceptions.

I find the mixing of the car horn effect in the original "Hot Rod Lincoln" to be obnoxious and very annoying: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AcCj4ogE-m8. The Commander Cody version is an improvement, but I much prefer the Asleep at the Wheel cover: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XcNN2lSjcTg

You didn't include Johnny Bond's 1960 version, which is my favorite;

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eZu5TwR ... mePopsicle

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 Post subject: Re: Are covers of popular songs ever as good as the original
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A little weak sounding original:
Beatles : Eleanor Rigby
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HuS5NuXRb5Y

A much better sounding cover version by the DĂĽsseldorf Rock group called Streetmark (I knew by person):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kCjJ2evMGPU

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Hello, SixM,
Don't need to hear the original to compare, got that one in the memory banks from the good old 60's.

Paul Mac must have also felt the string quartet sounded weak at first. The final version was recorded with a double string quartet, 8 instruments. Why didn't George Martin just overdub the first quartet recordings? IDK, maybe he did.

I had to hear the Streetwalk version twice and maybe need a few more times to get a true sense of it.
Question - is the drummer also the lead singer? Just the way he hits the cymbals where a wedding has BEEN! :D
He seems to be more impatient or frustrated rather than sad for the lonely people .As Paul would say, "Where's the Love?" :D
Their sound is refreshing in a garage band sort of way, thanks for the link. They could do a rocking rendition of Helter Skelter or Hey Bulldog, I'm sure.

Rick Wakeman on keyboards and David Paton on classical guitar take Eleanor to another level. In this instrumental version they conveys all the Paul Mc emotions thru their instruments, well done.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ObLtZAk45z0

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 Post subject: Re: Are covers of popular songs ever as good as the original
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Eric E wrote:
One comes to mind quickly, All Along the Watchtower, Bob Dylan composed and released, Jimi Hendrix released shortly later. Heck even Bob thinks Jimi’s version is better; Bob Dylan has a Nobel Prize so he knows what he is talking about.

Dave Mason, who played on the Jimi recording, did a great version. Mason's AATWT cover was made as a tribute to his buddy Jimi. It's on the 1974 "Dave Mason" LP.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=erHGEagAk_g

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Santana's cover of the Classics IV hit Stormy was a hot version.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zf1V7mKloXE

As was Atlanta Rhythm Sections' (with one or two former Classics IV members on board) cover
of Classics IV's Spooky.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lPkEpfwJX_Q

Last but not least of this grouping is Santana's cover of the Zombies' She's Not There.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K4jdiJA2TtQ

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Speaking of Santana, many people do not realize that his version of "Oye Como Va" is a cover. It was originally done by Tito Puente in 1962.


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I was just reading that somewhere. I don't think I knew it before.

Santana formed his Santana Blues Band in 1966, so nominally early in the San Francisco scene. But when they playedat a Family Dog concert in 1967, Chet Helms told them they'd get no where with the latin influence. Which is apparently why they "suddenltpy" appear in 1969, an album andWoodstock. The latter because Bill Graham was helping , and wanted his act on the bill. He was managing them.


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Copied from Pg 3: Canadian singer, songwriter and producer Ian Thomas recorded "Hold On" in 1981. Listen for cool bass chops after Ian sings the high part.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MhKkDM47I_g

The 1982 Santana cover stays true to the original, same tempo and intro, a bit more soulful but changes are subtle. Carlos holds back his signature guitar licks until the final bars, well done. Google it. Cheers.



More by Ian Thomas, multi-instrument singer song writer music producer., This one is Pilot:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TzjCWyV4CIw&t=72s

Put this song into perspective, August 6, 1945, the salt flats of Nevada.
"All those that mattered were waiting for the word.
"we place our trust in the flyer, to deliver us from the fire we have made."
"The scratching fingers became persistent"

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Ian Thomas's brother is Dave, of SCTV fame.

His big hit was in 1973, "Painted Ladies".

He's also on the soundtrack for "Strange Brew"


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Mr. Detrola wrote:

The Fendertones: Do You Want To Dance, and Shut Down. Both covers of the Beachboys, and every bit as good as the originals. They figured out how the Beachboys did it and duplicated the multi track recording process perfectly.


I have to agree 110%
I discovered these guys about a year ago on YouTube. Since then I’ve searched out every video they’ve ever released. What an amazing bunch of talent.

“heroes and Villains” is absolutely fantastic.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4sDcuw_YMz0

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