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 Post subject: Multi-Elmac Products
PostPosted: Jan Sun 25, 2009 7:52 pm 
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I can find all kinds of stuff online about the Multi-Elmac AF-67, Multi-Elmac PMR-6 and 7, but I can't find much info on the AF-68, PMR-8, and a Multi-Products M-1070 power supply. I have the AF-68, PMR-8 and M-1070 power supply, and manuals for all three, but what I really need are reasonable values for this gear. Anyone out there have a good idea on what this gear is worth? Thx. KE7ZCK


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PostPosted: Jan Sun 25, 2009 9:28 pm 
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If it is all in operating condition, I can see spending $150 for the pile. If it is not in operating condition, then $75 to $100 would be as high as I would go. I have used the AF-67 on and off over the years, but never the receiver or the AF-68. I like the AF-67 better because it includes the 160 meter band and I could care less about the six meter band that the AF-68 traded the 160 meter band for.

These are just typical hamfest prices I have noticed in the last couple of years.
Curt

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PostPosted: Jan Mon 26, 2009 12:43 am 
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I have an AF-54 and AF-67, the 67 is presently driving a HL-2200 as an AM linear with excellent reports.

Cant help with the value but Curt is probably real close.

Carl


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PostPosted: Jan Mon 26, 2009 5:18 am 
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FWIW - I am the proud owner of an AF-67, PMR-7 and AC power supply (can't remember the model #). Paid $50 for the lot. The receiver works great and the transmitter needs an audio driver transformer but puts out a nice carrier into a dummy load. I'm not a ham but they're fun to play with.

Dave


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PostPosted: Jan Thu 29, 2009 5:09 pm 
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I never tried Multi-Elmac stuff but had a ton of others.
I did have mint set of their last twins but was "talked" outta them at Deerfield, NH :?


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PostPosted: Jan Thu 29, 2009 7:57 pm 
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I do appreciate the comments about value. That's what I really need to know. Again, I have an AF-68, PMR-8 and M-1070 power supply, all built by Multi-Elmac Products, and I am just wondering what these units are worth. Thanks for informative replies. --Andy


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PostPosted: Jan Thu 29, 2009 9:38 pm 
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As an aside I heard a Ham on 20 a few days ago say he was the engineer that designed one of the first amateur transceivers in the 50's. He worked for Elmac.

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PostPosted: Jan Fri 30, 2009 3:56 am 
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Dave Doughty wrote:
FWIW - I am the proud owner of an AF-67, PMR-7 and AC power supply (can't remember the model #). Paid $50 for the lot. The receiver works great and the transmitter needs an audio driver transformer but puts out a nice carrier into a dummy load. I'm not a ham but they're fun to play with.

Dave


Dave, if you ever decide to part with them let me know. Id like the matching PS and a spare parts TX wouldnt hurt either.

Carl


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PostPosted: Feb Tue 10, 2009 8:35 am 
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My Multi-Elmac gear is on eBay now. We'll see what it brings! Hopefully I'll get enough to buy a new handheld. That's the plan anyhow. Thanks to those of you who had good comments about the value of this gear. -- Andy KE7ZCK


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PostPosted: Feb Tue 10, 2009 2:09 pm 
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Sad that you had to stick it on Ebay so soon. I am sure some here would have been interested in it.

I generally try to stay out of these "how much is it worth" type questions, as we all know where it will wind up at....on Ebay.

But this time I figured that since it was coming from a fellow ham, I would share some experiences I have had with the Multi-Elmac gear that I have had over the years, and stir up some intresting conversation between us old timers. But I guess the almighty dollar rules over all such things nowadays. Sorry.
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PostPosted: Feb Tue 10, 2009 5:13 pm 
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Hmm... seems like I offended you, Curt. That certainly wasn't my intention.

I have had this gear listed on craigslist for over a month at $200 for the receiver, transmitter and power supply. I think I even posted that on an Antique Radio forum but I never got a bite. I even offered it to my own HAM club several times with no interest. That's why I posed the question about how much the gear is worth because I wondered if I was way over priced and the gear was just junk.

You seem disturbed that I would sell such fine gear. Well, look at the pictures here:
http://picasaweb.google.com/penmensa/AF ... directlink
http://picasaweb.google.com/penmensa/PM ... directlink
http://picasaweb.google.com/penmensa/M1 ... directlink

This gear is not in great shape and I can't vouch for its proper function. So I put the pictures together and put the items on eBay to attract national attention because I have to sell this stuff regardless of whether you, Curt, or I, think I should keep it.

I am also recently unemployed and just trying to pay my rent. My truck is going to be repoed this week. My phone is going to be turned off this week, too.

I didn't just surf the net and decide to glean some undeserved attention from Antique Radio forums and get some questions answered gratis. My club directed me to this site to help me sell the gear. What's wrong with that?

I just have to sell some stuff! You shouldn't take that personally, though. Sorry to have offended you.

--Andy KE7ZCK


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PostPosted: Feb Tue 10, 2009 5:57 pm 
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Andy- you did not offend me. I can feel for your financial situation, as my hours at work have been reduced to part time status also, but I am struggling to get by the best I can. It happens to all of us these days.

What DOES offend me is the number of posters who register to the ARF and make one post asking what something is worth and then disappear, never to be heard from again. Then you see that same item on Ebay later with an asking price of what was suggested here on the ARF. Those people have absolutely no interest in the set they have, just what it may bring them moneywise. I know this in not the case with you, so please accept my appoligies if I sounded offended because I am surely not offended with you. I hope you get a reasonable offer for it. They are nice rigs, but a bear to work on if you need to recap them or get into the VFO compartment of the transmitters.
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PostPosted: Feb Tue 10, 2009 7:23 pm 
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Whew... I thought you were going to blast me!

I agree with you about the people who register, start a thread and then disappear. That's why I thanked the participants who stayed 'on message' about the value of these components when I came back to check on the thread. I wanted members to know that I was keeping track of the replies.

This Elmac gear is probably in good working order but I don't have the expertise to rehabilitate it. I just want to get on the air with something modern and I have dragged this Elmac gear around for 20 years without powering it up! It just has to go!

The only reservation I have about selling it is that I wonder if I should keep the power supply. It's too late now because it's on the auction block. I made the decision to sell it when I saw that I can replace it with something more modern for less than $100 later on.

Were you able to look at the galleries I included in the previous post? Picasa is new to me and have had to work out some glitches. I just want to know if the galleries are opening correctly.

Thanks for your input on this topic.
--Andy KE7ZCK


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PostPosted: Feb Tue 10, 2009 7:23 pm 
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KE7ZCK wrote:
My Multi-Elmac gear is on eBay now. We'll see what it brings!


Normally, we don't allow people to promote their sales and auctions in the discussion forums. But in this case, since a link wasn't posted, I suppose we can make an exception since the Classified forum (along with the others) has been recently unavailable. Anyone who wants the equipment should be able to find it.

Dave


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PostPosted: Feb Tue 10, 2009 7:57 pm 
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Andy- I have much better things to do other than slamming others here. Life with the economy is dismal enouth without creating more problems with others who are in financial straits.

I was never overly impressed with the Multi-Elmac power supply that was offered for the transmitters. Mainly due to its very poor voltage regulation. And running an AM rig with class AB2 modulators, you want some resemblence to voltage regulation to keep the distortion down.

As a result, I built my own power supply out of an old TV power transformer and a bridge rectifier, choke input and a hefty bleeder resistor that resulted in great operation of the AF-67.

Each vintage rig from those days has inherant defects that a lot of hams thought they could outsmart the design engineers, so the rigs were extensively modified. Some modifications were good, some not quite so good. One of the most popular modifications was to replace the 22.5 volt bias battery for the modulator tubes with a stud mounted Zener diode of about 10 to 15 watt rating. The center tap of the impossible to find driver transformer was grounded and the cathode of the modulators were raised above ground with the Zener diode, with a bypass capacitor across it. Saved on having to locate a sometimes difficult to locate battery, but the thought of solid state devices in a vintage rig never set well with me.

The driver transformer is hard to come by simply because of its size limitations and the way it is mounted, a lot of other transformers simply will not fit in the crowded space allocated for it. Fortunately the three AF-67's I have owned (still own two) have good transformers.

My history behind the AF-67 goes back to my pre-ham days in about 1962 or early 1963. My woodshop teacher was W7GZB (sk) and he had one paired up with an early HQ-129X receiver with the red chicken beak knobs on it. He also built his own power supply for the transmitter using a pair of 836 rectifier tubes, as 816's or 866A's made too much hash in the receiver.
Curt

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PostPosted: Feb Thu 12, 2009 4:02 am 
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Curt,
I didn't really think you were going to slam me. But I was prepared to turn the other cheek!

I did wonder if I would be stepping on some toes by mentioning that the gear was listed on eBay. I was also cognizant of staying with the thread and checking on the replies so other members didn't think I had just joined for the purpose of self-promotion.

The gear is out-performing my expectations on eBay which is a relief. Maybe I will be able to buy the HT I want!

Curt, I am a very new HAM. In fact, I have never operated on a HAM band as of yet. So, while I appreciate your latest reply I have to admit you lost me!

It's kinda funny, really. I have been interested in HAM radio for many, many years but, I just got licensed in December. The gear I have for sale has been in my possession for more than 20 years. And after earning my Tech license my mom tells me that her father (she's almost 80 now) was a world champion Morse keyer!

Maybe I have HAM in my blood.

Very well... I appreciate the old stuff but I want to operate something really compact from someplace really remote.

I guess we all have our 'bent', huh?
--Andy KE7ZCK


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PostPosted: Feb Thu 12, 2009 4:35 pm 
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Yeah, we all seem to have our "bent", you could say. Congratulations on being a new comer to the ham ranks. Today, is in fact my anniversary as I got my first license 44 years ago today, and have been continously licensed ever since.

Ham radio is a far cry today from what it was when I got started and a lot of things have changed over the years. I remember turning down several job offerings at the local TV/Radio repair shops that were offered me simply because I was young and had a ham license. Nowadays, with a ham license and two dollars, you MIGHT find a cup of good coffee it seems.

I have heard that there were a couple of pretty active ham clubs in your area. Have you been able to check any of them out yet? Depending on your interests, finding a good club can be difficult. I have found that most clubs around here exist only as a place to gather for a few members to gossip, and our local club no longer even meets at a meeting place. They carry on whatever club business there may be, which is little, over the air on the two meter repeater and gather for a breakfast meeting once a month at a restaurant. And all they want to talk about is RACES, which I have had more than my fill of, after being actively involved with it for too many years.
Curt

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 Post subject: Re: Multi-Elmac Products
PostPosted: Feb Fri 03, 2012 6:37 pm 
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to ke7zck i wood like no how much u want for that power supply


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 Post subject: Re: Multi-Elmac Products
PostPosted: Feb Fri 03, 2012 7:54 pm 
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Just an fyi...this post is about 3 years old and ke7zck hasn't been on the forum in about as long. So, doubtful you'll see a reply from him.

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 Post subject: Re: Multi-Elmac Products
PostPosted: Feb Fri 03, 2012 8:38 pm 
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Also, since he said he listed on ebay, it is probably long gone by now. But, you can feel free to place a want-ad in the Classified section.

Dave


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